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Trappist Yeasts
« on: June 30, 2017, 12:52:45 AM »


So, I found this thread about the first Trappist Brewery in the U.S.A.:
https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=17953.0

And it seems like there isn't a lot of information about Trappist Yeasts on here (maybe I am wrong and someone can point me to all of it), so I thought I would start a thread to gather Trappist Yeast info. And I think that the thread should also have kind of a focus on Religious Alcohol use, so I will add a few things about Religious Alcohol use for the purpose of really getting some information on Trappist brewing, since it is a Religious practice. Trappists actually called "Yeast", "God-is-Good" before they knew what Bacteria was.

If anyone has used a Trappist Yeast, please share about it in this thread.

Trappist Yeast Blends:
https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=6485.0
https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=5148.0

http://www.northernbrewer.com/wl-trappist-ale-yeast
http://www.northernbrewer.com/wyeast-trappist-high-gravity

Trappist Recipe:
https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/how-to-brew/patersbier-the-lawnmower-beer-of-trappist-monks/
https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=25776.20
https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/forum/index.php?topic=333.0

This is the Volstead Act:
The words "beer, wine, or other intoxicating malt or vinous liquors" in the War Prohibition Act shall be hereafter construed to mean any such beverages which contain one-half of 1 per centum or more of alcoholic beverages by volume.

Nothing in this title shall be held to apply to the manufacture, sale, transportation, importation, possession, or distribution of wine for sacramental purposes, or like religious rites, except section 6 (save as the same requires a permit to purchase) and section 10 hereof, and the provisions of this Act prescribing penalties for the violation of either of said sections... The head of any conference or diocese or other ecclesiastical jurisdiction may designate any rabbi, minister, or priest to supervise the manufacture of wine to be used for the purposes and rites in this section mentioned...


Since ancient times Armenia has been famous for wine making, where original traditions have been kept until this day. It is possible to learn about this even from works of such philosophers, as Herodotus and Strabo. In 401–400 BC, when the Greek armies led by Xenophon "were passed" on the country Nairi (one of the most ancient names of Armenia), in the Armenian houses they were treated with wine and beer which was kept in deep dugouts in special "karases" (clay pots). In karases with beer, reeds have been inserted which served for their ancestors as saltcellars. Archaeological excavations carried out by academic Pyatrovski in the 19th and 20th centuries have confirmed that in the 9th century BC, the area of modern-day Yerevan was a wine-making region. Archaeologists have found, in the fortress Teishebaini, a wine storehouse with 480 karases, which hold 37,000 daL of wine. During excavation in Karmir Blur (one of the most ancient settlements of Armenia where first attributes of life are found out a little thousand years ago) and Erebuni (city-fortress in territory of present Yerevan, built 2800 years ago and became in 2700 the capital of Armenia) had been found 10 wine storehouses in which were 200 karases. Still ancestors of Armenians – inhabitants of one of the most ancient states of the world - Urartu, were engaged in wine growing. In historian certificates, that in thus one of the most ancient states in the world the special attention was given development of wine growing and fruit growing were kept. Often in the historical data which have reached to us manufacturing techniques of wine and beer are mentioned. During Soviet Union period the Armenian wine makers were on peak of the glory.

The Dionysian Mysteries were a ritual of ancient Greece and Rome which used intoxicants and other trance-inducing techniques (like dance and music) to remove inhibitions and social constraints, liberating the individual to return to a natural state. It also provided some liberation for those marginalized by Greek society: women, slaves, homosexuals and foreigners. In their final phase the Mysteries shifted their emphasis from a chthonic, underworld orientation to a transcendental, mystical one, with Dionysus changing his nature accordingly. By its nature as a mystery religion reserved for the initiated, many aspects of the Dionysian cult remain unknown and were lost with the decline of Greco-Roman polytheism; modern knowledge is derived from descriptions, imagery and cross-cultural studies.

Ninkasi is the ancient Sumerian tutelary goddess of beer. Her father was the King of Uruk, and her mother was the high priestess of the temple of Inanna, the goddess of procreation. She is also one of the eight children created in order to heal one of the eight wounds that Enki receives. Furthermore, she is the goddess of alcohol. She was also borne of "sparkling fresh water". She is the goddess made to "satisfy the desire" and "sate the heart." She would prepare the beverage daily.



The Harper's Song, an Ancient Drinking Song



Death is a kindly fate.
A Generation passes, Another stays,
Since the time of the ancestors.
The gods who were before rest in their tombs,
Blessed nobles too are buried in their tombs.
(Yet) those who built tombs,
Their places are gone,
What has become of them?
I have heard the words of Imhotep and Hordjedef,
Whose sayings are recited in whole.
What of their places?
Their walls have crumbled,
Their places are gone,
As though they had never been!
None comes from there,
To tell of their needs,
To calm our hearts,
Until we go where they have gone!
Hence rejoice in your heart!
Forgetfulness profits you,
Follow your heart as long as you live!
Put myrrh on your head,
Dress in fine linen,
Anoint yourself with oils fit for a god,
Heap up your joys,
Let your heart not sink!
Follow your heart and your happiness,
Do your things on earth as your heart commands!
When there comes to you that day of mourning,
the Weary-hearted (Osiris) hears not their mourning,
Wailing saves no man from the pit!
Make holiday, Do not weary of it!
Lo, none is allowed to take his goods with him,
Lo, none who departs comes back again! 
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Re: Trappist Yeasts
« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2017, 01:45:53 AM »
Just remembered, this happened recently.

Burwell v. Hobby Lobby Stores, Inc.573 US ___ (2014)
"to conduct business in accordance with their religious beliefs"
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/573/13-354/opinion3.html

Cutter v. Wilkinson, 544 U.S. 709 (2005)
"Non-Mainstream Religions"
https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/544/709/

All Sacraments - being "Sacred Food" - are not "drugs" as defined under 21 USC S 321(g)(1) of the FD&C Act which defines a drug as "an article that is intended for use in the diagnosis, cure, mitigation, treatment, or prevention of disease in man or other animals and articles (other than food) intended to affect the structure or function of the body of man or other animals."

42 USC S 2000cc-5(7)(a)
The term "Religious Exercise" includes "any exercise of Religion, whether or not compelled by, or central to, a system of Religious Belief."
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« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2017, 01:54:05 AM »
Use the search function. There is plenty of discussion on the Trappists here.



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Re: Trappist Yeasts
« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2017, 02:02:01 AM »
 I love Trappist. All those flips and grabs in mid air. So fun to watch.

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« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2017, 02:04:05 AM »
I love Trappist. All those flips and grabs in mid air. So fun to watch.

Yeah they haven't come to my town since the elephants trampled the bearded lady and crab boy.

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Re: Trappist Yeasts
« Reply #5 on: June 30, 2017, 02:06:52 AM »
Has anyone tried it? What exactly are the flavors?

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« Reply #6 on: June 30, 2017, 02:09:11 AM »
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trappist_beer
Trappist beer is a beer brewed by Trappist breweries. Eleven monasteries — six in Belgium, two in the Netherlands and one each in Austria, Italy and United States — currently brew beer and sell it as Authentic Trappist Product.

The Trappist order originated in the Cistercian monastery of La Trappe, France. Various Cistercian congregations existed for many years, and by 1664 the Abbot of La Trappe felt that the Cistercians were becoming too liberal. He introduced strict new rules in the abbey and the Strict Observance was born. Since this time, many of the rules have been relaxed. However, a fundamental tenet that monasteries should be self-supporting is still maintained by these groups.
Monastery brewhouses, from different religious orders, have existed across Europe since the Middle Ages. From the very beginning, beer was brewed in French Cistercian monasteries following the Strict Observance. For example, the monastery of La Trappe in Soligny already had its own brewery in 1685. Breweries were later introduced in monasteries of other countries as the Trappist order spread from France into the rest of Europe. The Trappists, like many other religious orders, originally brewed beer to feed the community, in a perspective of self-sufficiency. Nowadays, Trappist breweries also brew beer to fund their works and charitable causes. Many of the Trappist monasteries and breweries were destroyed during the French Revolution and the World Wars. In the last 300 years, there were at least nine Trappist breweries in France, six in Belgium, two in the Netherlands, one in Germany, one in Austria, one in Bosnia and possibly other countries.
Today, eleven Trappist breweries are active — six in Belgium, two in the Netherlands, and one each in Austria, Italy and the United States.
In the twentieth century, the growing popularity of Trappist beers led some brewers with no connection to the order to label their beers "Trappist". After unsuccessful trials, monks sued one such brewer in 1962 in Ghent, Belgium.
The Dutch brewery De Koningshoeven produces Trappist beers – branded La Trappe – that are able to carry the "Authentic Trappist Product" logo. Their use of the International Trappist Association logo was withdrawn in 1999, but was restored in October 2005 (see Brouwerij de Koningshoeven for details). A second Dutch Trappist beer, branded Zundert and produced by Abdij Maria Toevlucht, made its debut in December 2013, and has also been granted permission to use the International Trappist Association logo.

The designation "abbey beers" (Bières d'Abbaye or Abdijbier) was originally used for any monastic or monastic-style beer. After the introduction of an official Trappist beer designation by the International Trappist Association in 1997, it came to mean products similar in style or presentation to monastic beers. In other words, an Abbey beer may be:-
Produced by a non-Trappist monastery—e.g. Cistercian, Benedictine; or
produced by a commercial brewery under an arrangement with an extant monastery; or
branded with the name of a defunct or fictitious abbey by a commercial brewer; or
given a vaguely monastic branding, without mentioning a specific monastery, by a commercial brewer.[/
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Re: Trappist Yeasts
« Reply #7 on: June 30, 2017, 02:12:11 AM »
Trappist yeast? There are several strains. The flavored depend on many things such as fermentation temp and recipe. One yeast can give you different flavors at different temps. Bubblegum flavors may be more pronounced at higher temps. Etc. search here on Belgian beers.


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« Reply #8 on: June 30, 2017, 02:13:54 AM »
Has anyone tried it? What exactly are the flavors?

I've never eaten a Trappist before because that's not my thing, but I've heard the meat is very tough from all the manual labor.

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« Reply #9 on: June 30, 2017, 02:14:03 AM »
Trappist yeast? There are several strains. The flavored depend on many things such as fermentation temp and recipe. One yeast can give you different flavors at different temps. Bubblegum flavors may be more pronounced at higher temps. Etc. search here on Belgian beers.


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Do you know if the 12% ABV Trappist Yeast is meant for Beer?

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« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2017, 02:18:23 AM »
A lot of brewers create a blog to chronicle their brewing journey/share ideas. I've seen a few of your posts and I think that's more of what you are trying to do

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« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2017, 02:20:57 AM »
A lot of brewers create a blog to chronicle their brewing journey/share ideas. I've seen a few of your posts and I think that's more of what you are trying to do

No, I am asking people what Trappist Beers they are brewing. And in the original thread I was figuring out what to brew first, and knew I was going to do something like a Wine, and I am still going to do Wines/Ciders, etc.

If you don't have interest in what I am talking about, then ignore me. I'm trying to get more information on Trappist Yeast and Beer, so I made a thread. This is not a "Here's this month's brew" blog, it's me seeking information.

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« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2017, 02:26:23 AM »
And btw, the reason I am making this thread is because Trappist Beers still seem pretty Esoteric, but not so much so that people aren't brewing them. And I had heard about Trappists about 4 years ago whenever I was doing research on various Religions, so whenever I decided to start brewing regularly I decided I would look into Trappist stuff. And I noticed that there are threads about Trappist Beer, but not as many as many many other Beers and Yeasts. And it seems like an interesting Yeast also, with the Fruit flavors coming out and everything. So I am asking questions about it. And also if anyone has any information on Religious Alcohol use, I would like to know about that also. I am thinking about maybe getting a Trappist Yeast whenever I start making beer, and after I have made a few runs of Cider, Banana Beer, Champagne and Wine.

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« Reply #13 on: June 30, 2017, 02:32:56 AM »
It's an acquired taste. Some hate, some like, some love.

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« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2017, 02:35:57 AM »
It's an acquired taste. Some hate, some like, some love.

Is the Fruit/Bubblegum Flavor strong or is it more like "a hint of..."?