[HoosierBrew]

The op says he is NOT brewing an NEIPA. So my question was shouldn't the sulfate and chloride be opposite for a non NEIPA?
Sulfate 80
Chloride 153

Most typically, yes, you are correct.  Flip those quantities and the OP has good levels from which to work.  Good starting point for IPA/APA styles.

I think I muddied the waters by bringing up NEIPA water salt levels. It used to be easy to get brewers in the ballpark, now you're not sure what style they're brewing to be able to give the right advice. 

[curtdogg]

Thanks for clarification guys. I hope this helps the OP as well.

[dilluh98]

I won't be brewing for a few days but this is what I have on Bruunwater right now.

Calcium  149
Mg           5
Na           4
Sulfate     80
Chloride    153

Mash pH is projected to be 5.38.  Again this isn't a NEIPA, its a 1.052 APA with an all Galaxy hop schedule.  FWH, 10, 5, 0, Dry

I think your salts look good. You may want to consider dropping the mash pH a bit for an APA, say 5.2-5.3. It'll make an APA "pop" a bit more.

My bad, I had NEIPA in mind too. SO4 150, Cl 80 would be more "traditional" IPA water. I'd still shoot for a lower pH.

[mabrungard]

Martin, somehow NEIPA got into the conversation along the line.
The op says he is NOT brewing an NEIPA. So my question was shouldn't the sulfate and chloride be opposite for a non NEIPA?

Of course personal preference plays a part, but yes, I've found that the more typical sulfate-forward water treatment is welcome in an APA or IPA. The level of that sulfate is certainly a matter of preference.

[curtdogg]

Thanks again gentlemen.
I look forward to brewing my next batch.

[bayareabrewer]

Martin, somehow NEIPA got into the conversation along the line.
The op says he is NOT brewing an NEIPA. So my question was shouldn't the sulfate and chloride be opposite for a non NEIPA?

Of course personal preference plays a part, but yes, I've found that the more typical sulfate-forward water treatment is welcome in an APA or IPA. The level of that sulfate is certainly a matter of preference.

have you ever gotten a quinine like flavor in lighter style beers, particularly saisons when using an elevated sulfate level?

[greatplainsbrewer]

OP again.  No this isn't a NEIPA but I was wondering about water treatment and fruitier hops, specifically Galaxy.  I appreciate the input and will be brewing this weekend.  Looks like I'll go back more toward a traditional pale ale water with the following:

Ca  93
Mg  4
Na  23
Sulfate  152
Chloride  49
pH  5.28

[curtdogg]

That looks good.
Whats your hop schedule look like? What yeast are you using.
More late hop additions, more flavor and aroma.
Use a yeast that will not take away from the hops.

I hope you have an excellent brew day.

[greatplainsbrewer]

FWH and late.  1450. 

[curtdogg]

I haven't had any experience with wyeast at all.
But if its Denny Bru's favorite i guess it must be good.
Im curious to know how it turns out with Galaxy hops.
Cheers

[curtdogg]

OP again.  No this isn't a NEIPA but I was wondering about water treatment and fruitier hops, specifically Galaxy.  I appreciate the input and will be brewing this weekend.  Looks like I'll go back more toward a traditional pale ale water with the following:

Ca  93
Mg  4
Na  23
Sulfate  152
Chloride  49
pH  5.28

How did this turn out?
Ive learned a lot about my water and what works for me since this post.
How about you?

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[greatplainsbrewer]

It was ok.  No trouble getting rid of it.  Beer wasn't as fruity as I'd hoped- first time using galaxy hops.  Probably won't repeat it

[curtdogg]

It was ok.  No trouble getting rid of it.  Beer wasn't as fruity as I'd hoped- first time using galaxy hops.  Probably won't repeat it

What was your grain bill and mash pH?



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