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The United States is Being Scrapped.
« on: November 13, 2009, 08:59:46 pm »
The SS United States that is.

She is moored down on the Delaware river. Its right by my bank so I grabbed this shot today. She is not going to be there much longer cause the rumor is that she will be sold for scrap.



This amazing ship was built late and was put out of business by international air travel.

It still holds the speed record for crossing the Atlantic ocean.

This cause the hull and bulk heads (most of the super structure) is aluminum.

Her top speed and some of her inner engineering is still a secret.

The original owner , who has since died was going to restore her to a working cruise ship. Even though it would cost twice as much as building a new one.

His dream was never realized.

Later they said that they were going to permanently moor her at Penn's Landing, to be a hotel, shopping and entertainment complex.

This would be better than scrapping it all together.

But I am afraid the cost of mothballing it is too high, and the price of aluminum too valuable. Economics will over take nostalgia.

For those who care. I will keep you updated.  





http://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/transportation/4263478.html
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Re: The United States is Being Scrapped.
« Reply #1 on: November 13, 2009, 09:14:41 pm »
That ship is an awe inspiring...imagine how many man hours...blood sweat and tears went into building her.

What a crying shame... :(
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Re: The United States is Being Scrapped.
« Reply #2 on: November 13, 2009, 09:16:38 pm »
Life goes on.  You can't dwell on the past unless you want to forgo the future...

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Re: The United States is Being Scrapped.
« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2009, 09:24:51 pm »
I agree Narvin. It is what it is. 

But it would be nice if we could keep some little pieces of the past around to remind us.

I just wish it wasn't to be scrapped. Its like scrapping the USS Lexington or the  the USS New Jersey.

They saved her from the scrap heap.

Here she is, now a museum in Camden.



If we can save New Jersey, why cant we save the United States?
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Re: The United States is Being Scrapped.
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2009, 09:38:49 pm »
I do agree, Cap.  Living in Baltimore, there are many examples of history and preservation around that I think are an inspiring history lesson.  I always get a little sad when something is demolished that could provide an important history lesson to the public. 

I was perhaps distracted by thinking about "bigger" issues in our society today. But I agree... if feasible, this would make a great national park monument.

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Re: The United States is Being Scrapped.
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2009, 09:40:00 pm »
Probably because it is not symbolic or important enough.
Why let her rot when you could sell her and use the money for something?
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Re: The United States is Being Scrapped.
« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2009, 09:40:45 pm »
Maybe it has to be done one state at a time?

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Re: The United States is Being Scrapped.
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2009, 10:34:15 pm »
I love naval history. Still have lots to learn but I love it. I used to build model ships when I was a kid. I built a giant USS Massachusetts. I built a USS New Jersey too. Later I worked at The Philadelphai Naval Ship yard for a few years.

It was awesome to actually work on the real ships. I was stoked.

I worked on the refit of the USS Kitty Hawk back in the 80's. It was my first real job.

She was just recently decommissioned. 



Word is she is to serve as a floating museum in North Carolina.

There are those that want her to be a Museum alongside of the New Jersey because she was built in Camden. 
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Re: The United States is Being Scrapped.
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2009, 02:35:49 pm »
Love the Iowa class battleships, they are a huge, beautiful design that ended up being generally obsolete as soon as they were built...the age of the dreadnoughts having long since past.  Still I gather they were useful for shelling shorelines (and far beyond) in various later wars, up to the Gulf War, as I recall.  Not to mention, the USS Missouri was useful for accepting the Japanese surrender in style.


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Re: The United States is Being Scrapped.
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2009, 02:59:38 pm »

But it would be nice if we could keep some little pieces of the past around to remind us.



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Re: The United States is Being Scrapped.
« Reply #11 on: November 16, 2009, 03:01:18 pm »
he might for those LAMBICs

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Re: The United States is Being Scrapped.
« Reply #12 on: November 16, 2009, 03:03:08 pm »
he might for those LAMBICs

That's sick... :o
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Re: The United States is Being Scrapped.
« Reply #13 on: November 16, 2009, 03:06:21 pm »
Just how do you think that "HORSIE" aroma and flavor is gotten exactly???

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Re: The United States is Being Scrapped.
« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2009, 12:36:25 pm »
Oh no! You don't keep your poop in little jars in the basement, do you?

I heard that Marlon Brando kept poo in jars.