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First lager brew.
« on: August 15, 2017, 05:20:52 AM »
I feel like I can brew a pretty good hoppy ale. I would like to take on my first lager.
I'm guessing I'm going to keep the grain bill pretty simple and use a balanced water profile. My LHBS has some dry yeast and white labs pure pitch.
Any tips, advise, recipes would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: First lager brew.
« Reply #1 on: August 15, 2017, 05:40:47 AM »
If you cant control your temperature you will not get a true lager


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Re: First lager brew.
« Reply #2 on: August 15, 2017, 11:12:12 AM »
Temp control isn't an issue.

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Re: First lager brew.
« Reply #3 on: August 15, 2017, 12:03:36 PM »
Think my first was a pilsner from the will here from Ron  "Bluesman" who has since fine pro. 100% pilsner, Hallertauer Mittelfrueh at 60, 1,and zero to about 30 ibus. Fermented 1/2 with 830 and half with 833. Pretty darn simple and delicious. Had to rebrew 2.5 months later because it was so popular. Ferment at 50

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Re: First lager brew.
« Reply #4 on: August 15, 2017, 12:25:57 PM »
Patience, it's hard to sit at wait for it, but worth it.  I lager 4 weeks minimum.

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Re: First lager brew.
« Reply #5 on: August 15, 2017, 01:15:18 PM »
I do love a good pilsner.
A few things I'm not clear on when it comes to lagering.
1. Is a Diacytal rest part of fermentation or lagering?
2. After fermentation is complete can I Lager in a keg or do I want to keep it in primary on the yeast with an airlock?


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Re: First lager brew.
« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2017, 01:30:11 PM »
I do love a good pilsner.
A few things I'm not clear on when it comes to lagering.
1. Is a Diacytal rest part of fermentation or lagering?
2. After fermentation is complete can I Lager in a keg or do I want to keep it in primary on the yeast with an airlock?


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1. Diacytal rest is done at the end of fermentation. You ramp up to 62-64 degrees for a couple of days. It cleans up mainly sulfur the yeast produces. But, if you have good temperature control, it may not be necessary. Others on this board can help fill you in on this.
2. You should have no problem lagering in a keg.
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Re: First lager brew.
« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2017, 08:49:12 PM »
Think my first was a pilsner from the will here from Ron  "Bluesman" who has since fine pro. 100% pilsner, Hallertauer Mittelfrueh at 60, 1,and zero to about 30 ibus. Fermented 1/2 with 830 and half with 833. Pretty darn simple and delicious. Had to rebrew 2.5 months later because it was so popular. Ferment at 50

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Re: First lager brew.
« Reply #8 on: August 15, 2017, 09:13:05 PM »
Think my first was a pilsner from the will here from Ron  "Bluesman" who has since fine pro. 100% pilsner, Hallertauer Mittelfrueh at 60, 1,and zero to about 30 ibus. Fermented 1/2 with 830 and half with 833. Pretty darn simple and delicious. Had to rebrew 2.5 months later because it was so popular. Ferment at 50

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I like German pils and the boiled Jever profile from Brunwater works great for it.
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Re: First lager brew.
« Reply #9 on: August 15, 2017, 09:14:41 PM »
Think my first was a pilsner from the will here from Ron  "Bluesman" who has since fine pro. 100% pilsner, Hallertauer Mittelfrueh at 60, 1,and zero to about 30 ibus. Fermented 1/2 with 830 and half with 833. Pretty darn simple and delicious. Had to rebrew 2.5 months later because it was so popular. Ferment at 50

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I like German pils and the boiled Jever profile from Brunwater works great for it.
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Re: First lager brew.
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2017, 12:23:53 PM »
Is a 90 minute boil absolutely necessary for pilsner malt?

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Re: First lager brew.
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2017, 01:15:51 PM »
Is a 90 minute boil absolutely necessary for pilsner malt?

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There have been several sources state that with modern malts, a 60 minute boil is enough to drive off the DMS with Pils Malt.
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Re: First lager brew.
« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2017, 02:01:27 PM »
Is a 90 minute boil absolutely necessary for pilsner malt?

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There have been several sources state that with modern malts, a 60 minute boil is enough to drive off the DMS with Pils Malt.
I use 80% pils malt in my belgian ales and I've never had an issue but I am not familiar with lager yeast and how the boil would effect the fermentation.
Also with my new Robobrew system, it doesn't have a very vigorous boil.


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Re: First lager brew.
« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2017, 02:26:09 PM »
Is a 90 minute boil absolutely necessary for pilsner malt?

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Not in my experience with any of the pils malts I use.
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Re: First lager brew.
« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2017, 03:20:03 AM »
Think my first was a pilsner from the will here from Ron  "Bluesman" who has since fine pro. 100% pilsner, Hallertauer Mittelfrueh at 60, 1,and zero to about 30 ibus. Fermented 1/2 with 830 and half with 833. Pretty darn simple and delicious. Had to rebrew 2.5 months later because it was so popular. Ferment at 50

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Thank you, any advise for the water?.

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I like German pils and the boiled Jever profile from Brunwater works great for it.
I'm having issues with excel, I can't view bru n water or any of my calculators.
I found a braukaiser German pilsner water profile on brewers friend. I wonder if it's similar Jever?

Ca: 59
Mg: 6
Na: 8
Cl: 68
S04: 88
Totals are ppm.

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