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Too much vodka extract?
« on: August 17, 2017, 11:12:34 PM »
For those of you that have made vodka flavoring extracts, how much vodka did you use? I made an extract with lemon zest and fresh basil. The vodka seems to be noticeable in the final product. If my calculations are correct, the vodka boosted the alcohol by 0.3%. It was a total of 6 oz added to a 5 gallon batch. I used more than planned due to having to cover a large volume of basil. I didn't really even consider it being an issue.
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Re: Too much vodka extract?
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2017, 03:11:55 AM »
I have the same question. Wish some one with knowledge would answer.

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Re: Too much vodka extract?
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2017, 03:59:52 AM »
Someone will. I assume the answer is if you can taste it you added too much. Just curious about how much most use. First time using this method and I guess I didn't fully think it through.
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Re: Too much vodka extract?
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2017, 05:38:20 AM »
Are you tasting vodka, or just a perceptible increase in alcohol presence? I thought the main idea using vodka for tinctures was that it was generally flavor neutral? 6oz in 5 gallons would be obvious with a rum, or bourbon, or tequila. I don't have an answer for you Goschman, just kind of curious myself as to the threshold

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Re: Too much vodka extract?
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2017, 03:05:33 PM »
Are you tasting vodka, or just a perceptible increase in alcohol presence? I thought the main idea using vodka for tinctures was that it was generally flavor neutral? 6oz in 5 gallons would be obvious with a rum, or bourbon, or tequila. I don't have an answer for you Goschman, just kind of curious myself as to the threshold

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To be honest it is a pretty bold beer with a lot going on. Maybe a bit too complex. I shouldn't say it tastes like vodka but I get a boozy perception for it being a 6.7% saision. It also has a pretty big mouthfeel for finishing at 1.003. Could be from the rye?

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6 oz vodka added to zest of three lemons and 21g freshly chopped basil
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Re: Too much vodka extract?
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2017, 03:35:06 PM »
I just did a Belle Saison that went from 1.056 to 1.003. No additives, no strong alcohol per eption. Hope that helps.

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Re: Too much vodka extract?
« Reply #6 on: August 18, 2017, 03:57:49 PM »
For those of you that have made vodka flavoring extracts, how much vodka did you use? I made an extract with lemon zest and fresh basil. The vodka seems to be noticeable in the final product. If my calculations are correct, the vodka boosted the alcohol by 0.3%. It was a total of 6 oz added to a 5 gallon batch. I used more than planned due to having to cover a large volume of basil. I didn't really even consider it being an issue.

Exactly why I quit using them.  I could always detect the vodka.
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Re: Too much vodka extract?
« Reply #7 on: August 18, 2017, 04:02:16 PM »
I always taste the vodka in the worst way when I use it to make extracts. I like the taste of vodka by itself and the extracts taste fine but for whatever reason it dilutes into an unpleasant flavor in the beer. It's not a booziness or burn. It's just a taste issue. No idea why this happens. I don't have the same problem adding any other spirits to beer.

So for me the "right" amount of vodka to use in an extract is zero.

Better off IMO using a different spirit. There's plenty of unaged whiskey, grain spirits and rums on the market to use instead.
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Re: Too much vodka extract?
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2017, 04:05:23 PM »
Got it. For some reason, I thought it was a pretty normal practice for a lot of people. Live and learn.
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Re: Too much vodka extract?
« Reply #9 on: August 18, 2017, 05:28:42 PM »
Got it. For some reason, I thought it was a pretty normal practice for a lot of people. Live and learn.

It seems to be a common practice, or at least something that people tell other people to do.

Exactly why I quit using them.  I could always detect the vodka.

Yeah, same here.
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Re: Too much vodka extract?
« Reply #10 on: August 18, 2017, 05:41:18 PM »
Got it. For some reason, I thought it was a pretty normal practice for a lot of people. Live and learn.

It seems to be a common practice, or at least something that people tell other people to do.

Exactly why I quit using them.  I could always detect the vodka.

Yeah, same here.

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Re: Too much vodka extract?
« Reply #11 on: August 18, 2017, 09:59:49 PM »
I'm with Denny.  I've never like the vodka tinctures because to me the vodka is detectable.
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Re: Too much vodka extract?
« Reply #12 on: August 18, 2017, 10:07:51 PM »
I'm with Denny.  I've never like the vodka tinctures because to me the vodka is detectable.



Another +1.  Done it several times and I don't like the character from it.
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Re: Too much vodka extract?
« Reply #13 on: August 19, 2017, 11:42:33 AM »
I've only used vodka tinctures twice and both times I found the taste of vodka very obvious. I gave up on using them.


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Re: Too much vodka extract?
« Reply #14 on: August 19, 2017, 01:55:53 PM »
Thanks all. Should have asked before I did it!
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