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Offline JASONCLICK

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Convert a NB kit to a NEIPA
« on: August 18, 2017, 11:33:48 AM »
So I bought this all grain kit from Northern Brewer about a year ago and has been sitting around waiting on me to brew it. My wife is really enjoying the NEIPA's out now and I was thinking of converting this kit to be a NEIPA instead. I've not brewed a NEIPA but just a little reading it looks like I need to do the following:
-add flaked oat and flaked wheat to the grist
-eliminate the grapefruit peel
-add more hops to the whirlpool
-add more hops to dry hopping
-use a yeast like WL London Ale 3

below is the original recipe if you want to take a look

http://www.northernbrewer.com/documentation/allgrain/AG-Grapefruit-Pulpin.pdf

any suggestions on doing this? Thanks
« Last Edit: August 18, 2017, 03:40:50 PM by JASONCLICK »

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Re: Convert a NB kit to a NEIPA
« Reply #1 on: August 18, 2017, 02:40:44 PM »
I can't see the kit details, 404 error. But if you hop burst in WP, and keep IBUs in the 50's with around 10% oats 4% wheat you should be fine.  I would also throw a couple oz of hops after primary slows down.  The beauty of homebrew is you get to do whatever you want!
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Re: Convert a NB kit to a NEIPA
« Reply #2 on: August 18, 2017, 04:06:17 PM »
I seem to think NB pulled the recipes off the website when they were acquired. I can't see the recipe.

Normally for an NEIPA you start off similar to any other AIPA but add oats along with any other protein-rich grain you might want. Sub out the yeast for London Ale III. Reduce or eliminate the bittering addition in favor of a huge whirlpool addition. Dry hop bigly. You can add hops during fermentation as well. A lot of getting the appearance and mouthfeel right in that style is your water. You basically need to flip chloride and sulfate ratios from a west coast IPA.

If you can post up the recipe here I'm sure you could get more specific recommendations.
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Re: Convert a NB kit to a NEIPA
« Reply #3 on: August 18, 2017, 05:01:24 PM »
If you can post up the recipe here I'm sure you could get more specific recommendations.

i updated the link in my original post so the recipe should be visible now. Here's a copy of the pdf:

Official NORTHERN BREWER Instructional Document
This bright showcase of apricot, peach,
cantaloupe and lemon dives into crisp
grapefruit flavor. A perfect complement to
citrusy hop aroma, this IPA has stripes of
ruby red grapefruit and hoppy, lingering
bitterness. An escape from the winter blues
or the perfect complement to a bright sunny
summer afternoon, each pint of Pulpin’ is
like a fresh Florida grapefruit grove bottled
up into a single refreshing serving.
O.G: 1.065 READY: 6 WEEKS
Suggested fermentation schedule:
- 1–2 week primary; 2–4 weeks secondary;
2 weeks bottle conditioning
MASH INGREDIENTS
- 13 lbs Rahr 2-row
- 0.5 lbs Dingemans Cara 20
- 0.25 lbs Briess Caramel 20
BOIL ADDITIONS & TIMES
- 0.5 oz Chinook (60 min)
- 0.5 oz Cascade (20 min)
- 0.5 oz Chinook (20 min)
- 0.5 oz Cascade (5 min)
- 0.5 oz Chinook (5 min)
- 1 oz Amarillo (0 min)
- 0.5 oz Chinook (0 min)
DRY HOPS
- 1 oz Cascade (dry hop)
- 1 oz Simcoe (dry hop)
- 2 oz Grapefruit peel (dry hop)
OTHER (NOT INCLUDED)
- 4 oz Vodka (Soak grapefruit peel in it for 2 days before
dry hopping)
YEAST
Dry yeast (default) Safale US-05. Optimum
temperature: 59°-75°F
Liquid yeast option: Wyeast 1056
American Ale. Optimum temp: 60°-72°F
White Labs WLP001 California Ale Yeast.
Optimum temp: 68°-73°F
PRIMING SUGAR
- 5 oz Priming Sugar (save for Bottling Day)
MASH SCHEDULE: SINGLE INFUSION
Sacch’ Rest: 150° F for 60 minutes
Mashout: 170° F for 10 minutes
BOIL ADDITIONS & TIMES
0.5 oz Chinook (60 min)
 0.5 oz Cascade (20 min)
 0.5 oz Chinook (20 min)
 0.5 oz Cascade (5 min)
 0.5 oz Chinook (5 min)
 1 oz Amarillo (0 min)
0.5 oz Chinook (0 min)
DRY HOPS
1 oz Cascade (dry hop)
1 oz Simcoe (dry hop)
Vodka/Grapefruit peel mixture (dry hop)
Add to secondary fermenter 5-7 days before bottling
YEAST
Dry yeast (default) Safale US-05. Optimum
temperature: 59°-75°F
LIQUID YEAST OPTION: Wyeast 1056
American Ale. Optimum temp: 60°-72°F
White Labs WLP001 California Ale
Yeast. Optimum temp: 68°-73°F
GRAPEFRUIT PULPIN’ (All Grain)

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Re: Convert a NB kit to a NEIPA
« Reply #4 on: August 18, 2017, 05:03:33 PM »
I plugged it into Beersmith and here's a text version of my plan:
BeerSmith 2 Recipe Printout - http://www.beersmith.com
Recipe: Sculpin Clone to NEIPA
Brewer:
Asst Brewer:
Style: Specialty IPA
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (30.0) original recipe- Grapefruit Pulpin - Northern Brewer

Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 8.11 gal
Post Boil Volume: 6.91 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 6.00 gal   
Bottling Volume: 5.65 gal
Estimated OG: 1.070 SG
Estimated Color: 5.6 SRM
Estimated IBU: 74.4 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 70.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 77.3 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt                  Name                                     Type       #     %/IBU     
13 lbs               Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM)           Grain      1     78.5 %     
2 lbs                Oats, Flaked (1.0 SRM)                   Grain      2     12.1 %     
13.0 oz              Wheat, Torrified (1.7 SRM)               Grain      3     4.9 %     
8.0 oz               Dingemans Cara 20 (23.0 SRM)             Grain      4     3.0 %     
4.0 oz               Caramel/Crystal Malt - 20L (20.0 SRM)    Grain      5     1.5 %     
0.50 oz              Chinook [13.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min        Hop        6     17.4 IBUs 
1.50 oz              Chinook [13.00 %] - Steep/Whirlpool  45. Hop        7     23.9 IBUs 
1.00 oz              Amarillo [9.20 %] - Steep/Whirlpool  45. Hop        8     11.3 IBUs 
1.00 oz              Cascade [5.50 %] - Steep/Whirlpool  45.0 Hop        9     6.8 IBUs   
1.00 oz              Mosaic (HBC 369) [12.25 %] - Steep/Whirl Hop        10    15.0 IBUs 
1.0 pkg              London Ale (White Labs #WLP013) [35.49 m Yeast      11    -         
2.00 oz              Amarillo [7.70 %] - Dry Hop 3.0 Days     Hop        12    0.0 IBUs   
1.00 oz              Cascade [5.50 %] - Dry Hop 3.0 Days      Hop        13    0.0 IBUs   
1.00 oz              Mosaic (HBC 369) [12.25 %] - Dry Hop 3.0 Hop        14    0.0 IBUs   
1.00 oz              Simcoe [13.00 %] - Dry Hop 3.0 Days      Hop        15    0.0 IBUs   


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Batch Sparge (152)
Total Grain Weight: 16 lbs 9.0 oz
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Name            Description                                   Step Temperature     Step Time 
Mash In         Add 27.74 qt of water at 160.7 F              152.0 F              60 min     

Sparge: Batch sparge with 2 steps (Drain mash tun , 4.37gal) of 168.0 F water
Notes:

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Re: Convert a NB kit to a NEIPA
« Reply #5 on: August 18, 2017, 05:51:30 PM »
any hops you see that I should not use let me know. I bought a few ounces of mosaic and have a bunch of amarillo in the freezer. the other hops came with the kit.

Other than the wheat and flakes, the other grain is in one big bag so i can't change those.

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Re: Convert a NB kit to a NEIPA
« Reply #6 on: August 19, 2017, 12:43:22 AM »
For my last brew, which was Northern Brewer's 'Off the Topper', their Heady Topper clone, which is not a NEIPA, I did the following for a 6 gallon batch:

* Added 2 lbs. 12 oz. Flaked Oats
* Added 2 lbs. 12 oz. Flaked Wheat
* Started with RO water and added Chloride and Sulfate with a heavy hand on the Chloride
* One bittering charge (hop shot)
* No boil hops
* 3 ounces of Amarillo, Centennial, and Simcoe @ 185F for 30 minutes
* 6 ounces of Citra, Mosaic, and Galaxy


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Re: Convert a NB kit to a NEIPA
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2017, 11:46:41 AM »
The irony here of course is hat I thought this was the original - or one of the first - NEIPA's...so not surprising you can kick it up a bit


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Re: Convert a NB kit to a NEIPA
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2017, 03:30:08 PM »
I plugged it into Beersmith and here's a text version of my plan:
BeerSmith 2 Recipe Printout - http://www.beersmith.com
Recipe: Sculpin Clone to NEIPA
Brewer:
Asst Brewer:
Style: Specialty IPA
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (30.0) original recipe- Grapefruit Pulpin - Northern Brewer

I think this plan looks good. The only remaining factor is water profile which you may already have but not included here.
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