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Where to learn more about yeast
« on: October 05, 2017, 07:20:52 PM »
Good afternoon!

I am looking for a resource to learn more about yeast. I feel like this is the one part of brewing that I just don't know enough about. Specifically, I'm looking to learn about how the different strains impact beer flavor, basics of how it does what it does, etc. Im not looking to get too crazy sciencey about it, but just some additional general-ish info on it. Are there any books or anything dedicated to this?

I have read John Palmers How to Brew, but that is about the extent of my knowledge on yeast. 

Any reccommendations? ive been trying to use different strains when I brew, but im one of those guys that does a different style every time and hasn't brewed the same recipe 2ce on any more than like 2 recipes :P

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Re: Where to learn more about yeast
« Reply #1 on: October 05, 2017, 07:37:08 PM »
The best way to learn is to brew the same thing over and over again changing only one thing....like the yeast.
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Re: Where to learn more about yeast
« Reply #2 on: October 05, 2017, 08:04:35 PM »
Like Denny says, play around, experiment, and learn for yourself what it does.

Lately I have been splitting every batch of beer I make, using two different yeasts, then comparing results.  Inevitably, half the batch turns out excellent, and the other batch mediocre.  If I continue in this fashion, half my beer will always suck, half might be quite good, and eventually, I'll know what to do.

There's only so much reading we can do regarding yeast.  They are living creatures, always evolving, and somewhat finicky.  The best way to learn is to use them, try different strains, try different temperatures, try different pitching rates, try liquid vs. dry packets........ and keep on playing until we find what we need to do to produce the beer that WE like to drink.
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Re: Where to learn more about yeast
« Reply #3 on: October 05, 2017, 11:43:53 PM »
Yeast by Chris White and Jamil Zainasheff is a good read.  It covers the basics, intermediates, and touches on some advanced.  It may have more info that you really want to know but you could always just read the chapters you're interested in and leave the others for a later time (if ever).

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Re: Where to learn more about yeast
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2017, 12:15:40 AM »
I would also recommend Brewing Yeast and Fermentation by Boulton and Quain. Deeper than the excellent White and Jamil book, and challenges some of their assumptions.




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Re: Where to learn more about yeast
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2017, 10:08:20 AM »
Yes, agree with Denny.  As far as I know there isn't a guide that says use this yeast and get theses flavors & aromas.  However, he strains are generally categorized by the aroma & mouthfeel properties that they can produce for example a Belgian style yeast will produce produce to phenolics that give Belgian beers their characteristic aroma. 

Another useful tool I got from my LHBS was a poster from white labs that talks about each of their yeast styles and how they compare to one another in general terms.


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Re: Where to learn more about yeast
« Reply #6 on: October 06, 2017, 03:34:25 PM »
Most yeast strains available to homebrewers originally come from commercial breweries. If you can get your hands on beer from breweries that use a particular strain, then you can get at least an initial impression of some of the flavor profile.
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Re: Where to learn more about yeast
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2017, 12:50:16 PM »
I've found that the 2015 BJCP guidelines and recent yeast specification data sheets to be helpful (find the latest data sheet from the manufacturer, as not all online homebrew stores have the most current data sheets / information).  If it looks like I'm doing something a little "crazy", I may ferment a much smaller portion of the wort with the 2nd yeast.  I also have a couple of homebrew blogs that I follow where the author posted their opinions on various dry yeasts.  Their observations often help me predict if my yeast selection may be "too crazy" (but it may not stop me from doing it anyway :) ).

Any reccommendations? ive been trying to use different strains when I brew, but im one of those guys that does a different style every time and hasn't brewed the same recipe 2ce on any more than like 2 recipes :P
For a quick survey of dry yeast, with a five gallon batch size, get five one gallon carboys.  Brew a style pitch 1/4 the packet in each carboy.  Repeat with a different style.   



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Re: Where to learn more about yeast
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2017, 02:33:33 PM »
thanks for the reccomendations guys!

I may get another 3 gal carboy and try to do two different batches. Im still interested in some reading material though and ill take a look at what was reccommended:)

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Re: Where to learn more about yeast
« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2017, 02:24:59 AM »
thanks for the reccomendations guys!

I may get another 3 gal carboy and try to do two different batches. Im still interested in some reading material though and ill take a look at what was reccommended:)

If you try this can you let us know how it turns out with some feedback.   Unfortunately, I do think the best way is to experiment...
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