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Organic Malt source
« on: October 15, 2017, 05:14:51 PM »
So, I am not into preservatives, GMO(s), etc in my beers which is one reason I Homebrew: I know the ingredients and limit them to grain, hops, water, and yeast. I'd like to know your retail source of Certified Organic Malt.


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Re: Organic Malt source
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2017, 08:08:00 PM »
So, I am not into preservatives, GMO(s), etc in my beers which is one reason I Homebrew: I know the ingredients and limit them to grain, hops, water, and yeast. I'd like to know your retail source of Certified Organic Malt.


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Personally, I think the whole GMO thing is blown way out of proportion. Do you distinguish between mutagenics and transgenics? Golden promise is a mutagenic variety, i.e. developed by irradiating seeds and young plants.

I personally don't sell out organic or non GMO varieties because there are a lot of issues with both designations. Organic doesn't mean they don't use pesticides, herbicides, etc. It just means like use some from a specific list. GMO designations depend on what country, etc. You're from. Some GMO's are incredibly beneficial, for example, they made a variety of rice with additional nutrients and greatly reduced malnutrition in the third world.

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« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2017, 11:26:27 PM »
A google search nets quite a few results.
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Re: Organic Malt source
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2017, 07:21:55 AM »
Bestmalz (of Red X fame) is organic.

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« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2017, 02:44:12 PM »
Some GMO's are incredibly beneficial, for example, they made a variety of rice with additional nutrients and greatly reduced malnutrition in the third world.

While the GMO rice does have more nutrients than similarly polished rice, existing natural whole rice species supply the same nutrients.

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« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2017, 03:20:16 PM »
Northern Brewer carries a line of Breiss malts labeled Certified Organic.
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« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2017, 03:52:11 AM »
Let me rephrase:  I understand that I can google and I understand that not everyone agrees. The question is where do you get your organic malt. I imagine that recommendation would come with a reason (I.e. Selection, price, availability, etc). If you don't buy organic malt or don't agree with the organic concept I understand. That's your prerogative but not my question. Thanks.


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« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2017, 09:15:31 AM »
According to the AMBA, there are no GMO barley varieties for sale or approved for commercial production in North America.

http://ambainc.org/content/58/gm-statements

Briess carries a comprehensive line of certified organic malts. I've purchased them from NB plenty of times, but haven't checked other suppliers.

http://www.brewingwithbriess.com/Products/Organics.htm


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« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2017, 03:59:41 PM »
According to the AMBA, there are no GMO barley varieties for sale or approved for commercial production in North America.

http://ambainc.org/content/58/gm-statements

Briess carries a comprehensive line of certified organic malts. I've purchased them from NB plenty of times, but haven't checked other suppliers.

http://www.brewingwithbriess.com/Products/Organics.htm

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Re: Organic Malt source
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2017, 04:13:06 PM »
According to the AMBA, there are no GMO barley varieties for sale or approved for commercial production in North America.

http://ambainc.org/content/58/gm-statements

Briess carries a comprehensive line of certified organic malts. I've purchased them from NB plenty of times, but haven't checked other suppliers.

http://www.brewingwithbriess.com/Products/Organics.htm
They state that no TRANSGENIC varieties are available. The issue there is no differentiation between transgenics and mutagenics. Transgenics use CRISPR or other methods to induce a change, mutagenics use radiation. It's the difference between a scalpel and a rock. My source (Among others):

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2007/08/28/science/28crop.html

Different countries have different definitions of GMO, the US typically only considers transgenics. I believe Canada and Europe are stricter.

Personally, to answer the question, is order from More Beer or great fermentations as my local shops have very limited stock. GF and MB are independent and support advancing home brewing. GF is localish.

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« Reply #10 on: October 18, 2017, 09:52:39 AM »
According to the AMBA, there are no GMO barley varieties for sale or approved for commercial production in North America.

http://ambainc.org/content/58/gm-statements

Briess carries a comprehensive line of certified organic malts. I've purchased them from NB plenty of times, but haven't checked other suppliers.

http://www.brewingwithbriess.com/Products/Organics.htm
They state that no TRANSGENIC varieties are available. The issue there is no differentiation between transgenics and mutagenics. Transgenics use CRISPR or other methods to induce a change, mutagenics use radiation. It's the difference between a scalpel and a rock. My source (Among others):

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2007/08/28/science/28crop.html

Different countries have different definitions of GMO, the US typically only considers transgenics. I believe Canada and Europe are stricter.

Personally, to answer the question, is order from More Beer or great fermentations as my local shops have very limited stock. GF and MB are independent and support advancing home brewing. GF is localish.

I prefer GF but in response to a note I sent, they don't plan to stock organic without more demand. Otherwise they are my go-to.


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« Reply #11 on: October 18, 2017, 10:20:55 AM »
Weyermann also has organic malts. Not sure whether they are available where Hershey's is King.
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« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2017, 10:24:29 AM »
I think the problem with making organic beer is finding hops. There's a very limited choice. In Belgium there are quite a bit organic beers, but most of them I don't like much. The only really good ones are Dupont and Cantillon.
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Re: Organic Malt source
« Reply #13 on: October 18, 2017, 11:05:08 AM »
Weyermann also has organic malts. Not sure whether they are available where Hershey's is King.

Yep, they are.  And I haven't eaten Hershey's in years.
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« Reply #14 on: October 18, 2017, 11:22:26 AM »
And I haven't eaten Hershey's in years.

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