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Keg Conditioning with Sinamar
« on: October 21, 2017, 11:20:55 pm »
I typically brew 11-12 gallon batches and split them into two fermenters. Most of the time I'll use different yeasts or dry hop differently or something.

But I had an idea for a new experiment, and wondered how to make it work. I want to brew an American brown ale, keg one half as-is, then keg-condition the other half with enough sinamar to take it firmly into porter territory. I figured I could just add the sinamar to the sugar and water that I boil to prime the keg, but it is unclear to me how much fermentable sugar is in 4 oz of sinamar. Is there enough for me to concern myself with, or should I just treat it like an unfermentable adjunct?

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Keg Conditioning with Sinamar
« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2017, 12:14:22 am »
No fermentables in sinamar.

https://www.weyermann.de/in/news.asp?go=ne&show=yes&idne=27&umenue=yes&idmenue=4&sprache=

SINAMAR all-natural malt extract, by contrast, is not condensed wort, but condensed beer. Because it contains no fermentables, it is not intended for making beer, but for giving an already existing beer one key characteristic that it may be lacking: A deep-opaque, dark colorbut without acrid, roasted flavors.
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Re: Keg Conditioning with Sinamar
« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2017, 09:49:10 am »
Inhave added sinamar to the keg several times.  There's no fermentation from it, as confirmed above.  But ya know, there,s more to a porter than just color.  I wonder how close you'll get by just making it darker.
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Re: Keg Conditioning with Sinamar
« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2017, 10:32:08 pm »
But ya know, there,s more to a porter than just color.  I wonder how close you'll get by just making it darker.

That is exactly the question i want answered. I suspect 4 oz of sinamar in a keg will add more than just color.

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Re: Keg Conditioning with Sinamar
« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2017, 07:21:31 am »
But ya know, there,s more to a porter than just color.  I wonder how close you'll get by just making it darker.

That is exactly the question i want answered. I suspect 4 oz of sinamar in a keg will add more than just color.
It will add more than just color, but not very much. Unless you have a lot of roast in your brown ale already it will fall far short of a porter.
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Re: Keg Conditioning with Sinamar
« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2017, 08:32:29 am »
But ya know, there,s more to a porter than just color.  I wonder how close you'll get by just making it darker.

That is exactly the question i want answered. I suspect 4 oz of sinamar in a keg will add more than just color.

What do you expect it to add?
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Re: Keg Conditioning with Sinamar
« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2017, 09:35:05 am »
But ya know, there,s more to a porter than just color.  I wonder how close you'll get by just making it darker.

That is exactly the question i want answered. I suspect 4 oz of sinamar in a keg will add more than just color.

What do you expect it to add?

A smooth roasty flavor akin to cold-steeped carafa, but less intense. Added to the chocolate malt included in the brown ale, I suspect it will produce a smooth pitch-black porter.


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Re: Keg Conditioning with Sinamar
« Reply #7 on: October 23, 2017, 09:57:40 am »
But ya know, there,s more to a porter than just color.  I wonder how close you'll get by just making it darker.

That is exactly the question i want answered. I suspect 4 oz of sinamar in a keg will add more than just color.

What do you expect it to add?

A smooth roasty flavor akin to cold-steeped carafa, but less intense. Added to the chocolate malt included in the brown ale, I suspect it will produce a smooth pitch-black porter.


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Maybe...I've never seen that happen, though.
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