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Offline syncopadence

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Where did the flavor go?
« on: November 18, 2017, 04:15:39 AM »
I brewed a saison that was tasting delicious prior to kegging, and now that it's been carbing for 4 days, it seems to have lost a good bit of it's character. In fact, it looks and smells like a crappy light beer now (bug light or something). It had big notes of banana and bubblegum and now it's gone. What could have happened?

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Re: Where did the flavor go?
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2017, 11:01:38 AM »
If you didn’t do a closed transfer, if might be oxidized.

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Re: Where did the flavor go?
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2017, 04:35:17 PM »
Too cold?

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Re: Where did the flavor go?
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2017, 09:37:42 PM »
Too cold?
I gradually warmed it up in the glass, doesn't seem to change.

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Re: Where did the flavor go?
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2017, 09:38:33 PM »
If it helps, the yeast was wlp566 saison 2.

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Re: Where did the flavor go?
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2017, 09:39:57 PM »
If you didn’t do a closed transfer, if might be oxidized.
Unfortunately I'm unable to do a closed transfer at the moment. Can oxidation cause it to smell/taste like a light lager? Not getting the usual oxidation flavors.

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Re: Where did the flavor go?
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2017, 09:46:25 PM »
Nor sure. Light lager how? Sulphur? DMS?

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Re: Where did the flavor go?
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2017, 10:17:59 PM »
A common misconception is that oxidation is cardboard and sherry flavors.  Oxidation is the loss of brewery fresh flavor (I.e. exactly what you just experienced first hand). ADVANCED late stage oxidation is cardboard and sherry. 


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Re: Where did the flavor go?
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2017, 12:42:46 AM »
I have a beer on with 566. I’m not that impressed with it. Same beer with Imperial Rustic is much better.

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Re: Where did the flavor go?
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2017, 02:12:05 AM »
I have a beer on with 566. I’m not that impressed with it. Same beer with Imperial Rustic is much better.
Beat me to it. The only time I used 566 it tasted more like a Kolsch. I have one finishing with Rustic and 565. 565 is still my favorite.


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Re: Where did the flavor go?
« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2017, 05:08:47 AM »
I have a beer on with 566. I’m not that impressed with it. Same beer with Imperial Rustic is much better.
Beat me to it. The only time I used 566 it tasted more like a Kolsch. I have one finishing with Rustic and 565. 565 is still my favorite.


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It’s not THAT bad, just single note. Aroma is good. I fermented at ambient around 74 during the day and maybe 70 at night.

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Re: Where did the flavor go?
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2017, 01:44:33 PM »
Nor sure. Light lager how? Sulphur? DMS?
Like a smash beer made with pilsner malt and lager yeast. No sulphur or dms. Hard to explain. Just imagine the smell of bud light or something like that.

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Re: Where did the flavor go?
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2017, 01:48:03 PM »
So an update on this is that I drew off a glass, then poured another and let it warm up again. It definitely helped. I think maybe it's some oxidation coupled with it being too cold. Thanks for the help fellas.

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