Quote from: hopfenundmalz on January 02, 2018, 01:43:05 PMIt doesn’t have the oil content of hops like Citra, but I have enjoyed the aroma of beers that I have made with it.Same here. Definitely not as in your face (not surprising being a Hallertau offshoot), but it's a nice hop.
It doesn’t have the oil content of hops like Citra, but I have enjoyed the aroma of beers that I have made with it.
Citra has Hallertau Mittelfrüh in its breeding list.https://ychhops.com/varieties/citra-brand-hbc-394-cv
Quote from: hopfenundmalz on January 02, 2018, 03:47:15 PMCitra has Hallertau Mittelfrüh in its breeding list.https://ychhops.com/varieties/citra-brand-hbc-394-cvI'd seen that. I wonder how Citra ended up so intense and oily with parentage of mostly less intense hops?
Quote from: HoosierBrew on January 02, 2018, 03:57:11 PMQuote from: hopfenundmalz on January 02, 2018, 03:47:15 PMCitra has Hallertau Mittelfrüh in its breeding list.https://ychhops.com/varieties/citra-brand-hbc-394-cvI'd seen that. I wonder how Citra ended up so intense and oily with parentage of mostly less intense hops?Same way Lemondrop is so much less intense than its mother Cascade? Or that Cascade itself has changed so much? Every hop is its own thing, it seems.
Quote from: Robert on January 02, 2018, 04:05:29 PMQuote from: HoosierBrew on January 02, 2018, 03:57:11 PMQuote from: hopfenundmalz on January 02, 2018, 03:47:15 PMCitra has Hallertau Mittelfrüh in its breeding list.https://ychhops.com/varieties/citra-brand-hbc-394-cvI'd seen that. I wonder how Citra ended up so intense and oily with parentage of mostly less intense hops?Same way Lemondrop is so much less intense than its mother Cascade? Or that Cascade itself has changed so much? Every hop is its own thing, it seems.I get that. Just seems the jump in intensity from Citra's parentage to Citra is a lot bigger than the drop off from Cascade to Lemondrop. I'm sure the answer lies in our ability nowadays to manipulate genetic factors in forming new hybrids. Pretty interesting regardless.
Are hops GMO?
Quote from: Robert on January 02, 2018, 04:05:29 PMQuote from: HoosierBrew on January 02, 2018, 03:57:11 PMQuote from: hopfenundmalz on January 02, 2018, 03:47:15 PMCitra has Hallertau Mittelfrüh in its breeding list.https://ychhops.com/varieties/citra-brand-hbc-394-cvI'd seen that. I wonder how Citra ended up so intense and oily with parentage of mostly less intense hops?Same way Lemondrop is so much less intense than its mother Cascade? Or that Cascade itself has changed so much? Every hop is its own thing, it seems.Cascade has changed? In what way?
When I first tasted Liberty Ale and Sierra Nevada, I recall a distinct lemony character. Subjective, and memory dependent, but I've heard others say that too.
Quote from: klickitat jim on January 02, 2018, 05:28:29 PMAre hops GMO?Only in the sense that cats and dogs are GMO.
Quote from: Robert on January 02, 2018, 05:57:44 PMWhen I first tasted Liberty Ale and Sierra Nevada, I recall a distinct lemony character. Subjective, and memory dependent, but I've heard others say that too.You need to account for year to year crop variations and terroir. A lot of Cascade from one farm will not be exactly like one from another farm. Even on the same farm there can be lot to lot variations. That's why brewers go to Yakima to sample from different lots and select exactly the lot they want. Steve Dresler, from Sierra Nevada, is there every year...or was til he retired last year.