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Offline TeeDubb

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Defect Diagnosis
« on: January 07, 2018, 12:01:03 pm »
I recently brewed a gluten free Pale Ale using the Ground Breaker Brewing recipe (with different hops) that was posted a few months ago. I racked to keg last night and something was clearly off.

https://static1.squarespace.com/static/538fa264e4b09eb4feac4903/t/594577a2b6ac50716937d515/1497724834648/GBB+Gluten-Free+Homebrew+Pale+Ale.pdf

I normally brew all grain, so a partial mash brew seemed fun with the intent to make a GF ale for a few gluten sensitive friends that don't drink beer. Brew day went without issue. I started with RO water, added a little gypsum and calcium chloride to suit the style. Wort pH was 5.35 before the boil. The wort tasted fine going into the fermenter. I used US-05 which became active about 12 hours after pitching.  I kept fermentation at 66-67 for 5-6 days and ramped up to 68-69 after activity seemed to subside. OG was 1.052 and FG was 1.009 after 11 days.  Fermentation seemed slower that usual, but steady.

After racking to keg and adding dry hops, I evaluated a sample from the fermenter. Appearance was as expected (light gold / orange).  Aroma was earthy with some rubber in there!  Maybe a touch of phenolic.  I did not get band aids directly, but maybe there is some of that in there too.  Flavor matches the aroma if that makes any sense. I also noticed that there was a thick layer of very loosely flocculated yeast at the bottom of the fermenter. I think I lost at least .75 gal during racking to keg. I have never seen that with US-05 or from the 4-5 other liquid strains I typically use. Photos at link below - note that I did seem to transfer some hop matter from the boil kettle because my revised whirlpool method did not work as planned to collect trub in the middle.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/evJsxtPJR37jVf052

My question is if anyone has experienced this type of defect and/or the yeast flocculation behavior.  I suspect that I got an infection somewhere, despite my usual liberal use of Star-San and extensive equipment cleaning. Maybe my RO water source gave me some chlorine? I'm trying not to blame the GF ingredients :) but the next batch is likely go back to my usual recipes.  I'm going to let this one sit in the keg for 1-2 weeks and then likely dump it, but it would be nice to understand what may have happened.

Offline Frankenbrew

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Re: Defect Diagnosis
« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2018, 02:40:53 pm »
Were your ferment temps ambient or actual fermenter temp?
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Offline TeeDubb

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Re: Defect Diagnosis
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2018, 03:31:30 pm »
They are thermowell temps inside the wort.  I use an external chiller and cooling coil inside the fermenter.

Offline dannyjed

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Re: Defect Diagnosis
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2018, 06:35:11 pm »
It could be wild yeast contamination. I had some yeast over a year ago that I had stored from a previous batch that ruined two batches before I figured it out. They both had a rubber, phenolic taste that was unpleasant. I had to dump both batches. You might want to switch sanitizers to idophor which works better against wild yeast.


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Offline TeeDubb

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Re: Defect Diagnosis
« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2018, 06:27:45 pm »
Thanks!  Maybe it's time to replace o-rings and gaskets in the fermenter.  I will get some idophor and give that a try too before the next round.