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Big Stout Stuff
« on: January 14, 2018, 07:06:52 PM »
After much thought, i am going to try for a less American imperial stout than Old Rasputin. Maybe more like an imperial tropic stout-ish. Tone down the hop bitterness and flavor, more toward balancing the hops n malt.

What do you think?

71% Golden Promise
22% German Dark Munich
4% Roasted Barley
3% UK Chocolate
~40 ARM Mosher
~1.100-1.104
~1.024-1.026
~10% ABV
~50 IBU Tinseth

~75 Ca, 5 Mg, 25 Na, 100 Cl, 60 SO4
Will be using the double mash, no sparge method. Targeting ~ 5.4ph

40g Magnum FWH
30g EKG and 30g Fuggles at 10min

Wyeast 1450 at 65f till 50% ADF, then free rise to 72f.

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Re: Big Stout Stuff
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2018, 07:30:45 PM »
I think I'd up the roast a bit.
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Re: Big Stout Stuff
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2018, 08:28:56 PM »
I was thinking that too, but have always heard to keep roast the same and just increase base malt for an imperial. In a 6 gallon batch, this one will be 1lb roast barley and .75lb 425L chocolate. It's what my american stout uses. Hmmm, got me thinking now

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Re: Big Stout Stuff
« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2018, 04:21:48 PM »
Taking this from a different angle. Would a pound of roast barley and 3/4 of a pound be too much for a porter? Because I'm aiming for roast character being present but not the dominant thing

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Re: Big Stout Stuff
« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2018, 05:39:19 PM »
What you have looks ok but have you considered adding Brown Malt?

Take a look at the stout recipes (any of the recipes actually) posted on "Shut up about Barclay Perkins".

http://barclayperkins.blogspot.com/2012/08/lets-brew-wednesday-1867-courage-double.html
http://barclayperkins.blogspot.com/2012/02/lets-brew-wednesday-1914-courage.html

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Re: Big Stout Stuff
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2018, 06:22:30 PM »
I used brown malt once and must not have gotten the right kind. I'll look that up

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Re: Big Stout Stuff
« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2018, 06:39:59 PM »
I used brown malt once and must not have gotten the right kind. I'll look that up

There are at least 2 variations.  One is 35L and also sometimes called amber malt.  It's made by Baird.  Fawcett puts out a 70L brown malt that I use and really like.  Although I think it works better in porter than stout.
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Re: Big Stout Stuff
« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2018, 06:58:15 PM »
I used brown malt once and must not have gotten the right kind. I'll look that up

I like amber and brown malts when added to darker beers but some don't like them.

If you're a think for yourself type person you may be able to gather ideas from "Let's Brew!":

http://www.lulu.com/shop/http://www.lulu.com/shop/ronald-pattinson/lets-brew/paperback/product-23322469.html#productDetails

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Re: Big Stout Stuff
« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2018, 06:58:32 PM »
Thanks Denny I might have to try some out

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Re: Big Stout Stuff
« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2018, 07:21:24 PM »
I personally like roasted barley + chocolate in stouts, and brown or chocolate + black patent in porter. No reason it wouldn't work well, either. Just personal preference.
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Re: Big Stout Stuff
« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2018, 02:34:28 AM »
I personally like roasted barley + chocolate in stouts, and brown or chocolate + black patent in porter. No reason it wouldn't work well, either. Just personal preference.
What do you think of my recipe? As the key helper in my base stout, I value your opinion

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Re: Big Stout Stuff
« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2018, 02:23:38 PM »
I personally like roasted barley + chocolate in stouts, and brown or chocolate + black patent in porter. No reason it wouldn't work well, either. Just personal preference.
What do you think of my recipe? As the key helper in my base stout, I value your opinion


I think it looks pretty good, but maybe another 1% of roast barley or chocolate might be a good thing, too. Bet it's tasty. I like the dark Munich touch.

Edit -  Given the choice, I'd bump the RB up to 5%
« Last Edit: January 16, 2018, 03:25:23 PM by HoosierBrew »
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Re: Big Stout Stuff
« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2018, 03:53:14 PM »
Ok thanks

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Re: Big Stout Stuff
« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2018, 04:10:51 PM »
Based on Denny and Hoosierbrew's wisdom, here's the final draft.

6 gallon target
20lb Golden Promise
6lbs Dark Munich
1.5lbs Roast Barley
1lb 425 Chocolate
28.5 total

OG ~1.105 at 60% brewhouse, but who knows? Will be first try at a double mash.

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Re: Big Stout Stuff
« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2018, 07:52:49 PM »
I think that looks pretty good IMO.


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