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Re: Belgian Golden Strong Ale
« Reply #15 on: January 23, 2018, 10:42:30 AM »
We do make a distinction between "blond" and tripel. "Blond" beers are beers such as Grimbergen, Leffe and Affligem. They are a bit more phenolic than tripels.

Duvel is really different, as it is brewed with a non-Belgian yeast.

For my beer judge exam I had to be able to blindly determine whether a beer was a tripel, a blond or a Duvel. The problem is that there are also big differences between brands, so many a night was spent in tears and despair as I tried in vain to nail them down.
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Re: Belgian Golden Strong Ale
« Reply #16 on: January 23, 2018, 12:43:07 PM »
I think the descriptors for both tripel and golden strong both fit the beers I've sampled.  Just sayin.  Sure there is a lot of variety within the style.  A style of beer should NOT mean that every beer should taste the same! 
I'm just saying that these two style guidelines are extremely close, and I doubt anyone could meaningfully discern the two. 


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Re: Belgian Golden Strong Ale
« Reply #17 on: January 23, 2018, 12:53:50 PM »
I think the descriptors for both tripel and golden strong both fit the beers I've sampled.  Just sayin.  Sure there is a lot of variety within the style.  A style of beer should NOT mean that every beer should taste the same! 
I'm just saying that these two style guidelines are extremely close, and I doubt anyone could meaningfully discern the two. 


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One thing I will say is there is a ton more commonality in American versions than the Belgian counterparts. Most American Tripels and Golden Strongs all taste the same. Something like Golden Monkey tastes remarkably similar to Pranqster which is remarkably similar to Allagash Tripel, etc.

Sampling a Westmalle versus a Duvel versus a Chimay versus a Chouffe versus a DT seems, to my taste buds at least, to be a fundamentally different experience. I chalk it up to the more unique yeasts used in the Continental versions of the styles.
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Re: Belgian Golden Strong Ale
« Reply #18 on: January 23, 2018, 01:22:42 PM »
From BLAM:



They have soft water with low iron. I tried to find a copy of the Breendonk water profile to attach here but wasn't successful. Either way, BLAM says they de-min the water and add salts back so water is anyone's guess.

They blend Pils varieties which I assume is for color purposes, but being that they boil for 90 minutes, it could be just to get the right flavor profile.

As Frank pointed out earlier, their yeast was isolated from McEwans by DeClerck himself.
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Re: Belgian Golden Strong Ale
« Reply #19 on: January 23, 2018, 03:07:56 PM »
They have soft water with low iron. I tried to find a copy of the Breendonk water profile to attach here but wasn't successful. Either way, BLAM says they de-min the water and add salts back so water is anyone's guess.


It's "Willebroek" in Bru'nwater. But it is known that they use their own source, so not sure whether it would be the same.
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Re: Belgian Golden Strong Ale
« Reply #20 on: January 23, 2018, 04:45:09 PM »
They have soft water with low iron. I tried to find a copy of the Breendonk water profile to attach here but wasn't successful. Either way, BLAM says they de-min the water and add salts back so water is anyone's guess.


It's "Willebroek" in Bru'nwater. But it is known that they use their own source, so not sure whether it would be the same.

Added to the sheet Frank!  ;)
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Re: Belgian Golden Strong Ale
« Reply #21 on: January 23, 2018, 11:31:54 PM »
I agree with this.  I also think those beers would fit into either category. 

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