[denny]

Another question, did the AHA endorse the Z or write an article about it? There is a banner on top of PicoBrew’s Z page with a bunch of blog and magazine names. In that list is “American Homebrewer’s Association”. I haven’t seen an article on the AHA site so I am curious why the AHA is mentioned in that group.

PS. I have no beef if AHA did write an article or get paid to endorse. I am just curious and would like to read the article if there is one.

https://www.picobrew.com/Store/products/z.cshtml

Maybe because there's a Zymatic at AHA headquarters?

[Stevie]

It still doesn’t chill?

It does chill.

Not in the marketing material. Crazy that people are dropping big bucks without full spec sheet readily available.

[denny]

It still doesn’t chill?

It does chill.

Not in the marketing material. Crazy that people are dropping big bucks without full spec sheet readily available.

Rather than speculate, I asked.  I was told it will chill.  Of course, they could change that, but that's what I was told.

[klickitat jim]

In terms of hobby stuff, it's fairly cheap. A pair of Yamaha 150 outboards are about $24k, to go salmon fishing at bouy 10 twice a year.... now That is money

[majorvices]

In terms of hobby stuff, it's fairly cheap. A pair of Yamaha 150 outboards are about $24k, to go salmon fishing at bouy 10 twice a year.... now That is money

Haha! That's a good point. I'm into HiFi and the stuff I want is so expensive I'd have to get a divorce to buy it and then I couldn't afford it.

The stuff you can do with step mashes with the pico is incredible my only real gripe is the way it handles hops. I much prefer the hops directly in the boil. I guess you can do that if you use a large enough hop sock.

[klickitat jim]

$24K is engines only, assuming everything else is free. Boat $50k, rods n reels $200 each, electronics, licensing, bait, tow charge cuz you forgot fuel, USCG fine for expired fire extinguisher lol.

[tommymorris]

In terms of hobby stuff, it's fairly cheap. A pair of Yamaha 150 outboards are about $24k, to go salmon fishing at bouy 10 twice a year.... now That is money

Haha! That's a good point. I'm into HiFi and the stuff I want is so expensive I'd have to get a divorce to buy it and then I couldn't afford it.

The stuff you can do with step mashes with the pico is incredible my only real gripe is the way it handles hops. I much prefer the hops directly in the boil. I guess you can do that if you use a large enough hop sock.

What is the resulting problem with their method for adding hops? Less flavor, aroma, bitterness per ounce of hops? something else?

[majorvices]

In terms of hobby stuff, it's fairly cheap. A pair of Yamaha 150 outboards are about $24k, to go salmon fishing at bouy 10 twice a year.... now That is money

Haha! That's a good point. I'm into HiFi and the stuff I want is so expensive I'd have to get a divorce to buy it and then I couldn't afford it.

The stuff you can do with step mashes with the pico is incredible my only real gripe is the way it handles hops. I much prefer the hops directly in the boil. I guess you can do that if you use a large enough hop sock.

What is the resulting problem with their method for adding hops? Less flavor, aroma, bitterness per ounce of hops? something else?

I haven't tried a whole lot of hoppy beers aside from the one I was disappointed with so I'd rather hold my opinion on that for now because it could have been a programming error on my part. I'm going to try it again soon and will report back.

[denny]

I haven't tried a whole lot of hoppy beers aside from the one I was disappointed with so I'd rather hold my opinion on that for now because it could have been a programming error on my part. I'm going to try it again soon and will report back.

For really hoppy beers I increase hop amounts by 20%.  Seems to work for me.  I believe that will be dealt with in the new unit.

[BrewBama]

In terms of hobby stuff, it's fairly cheap. A pair of Yamaha 150 outboards are about $24k, to go salmon fishing at bouy 10 twice a year.... now That is money

Oh sure, if you’re gonna use logic and sound reasoning then I think we’re done here.




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[majorvices]

I haven't tried a whole lot of hoppy beers aside from the one I was disappointed with so I'd rather hold my opinion on that for now because it could have been a programming error on my part. I'm going to try it again soon and will report back.

For really hoppy beers I increase hop amounts by 20%.  Seems to work for me.  I believe that will be dealt with in the new unit.

Don't have the handbook in front of me but there is a max they recommend for each bin. Do you just exceed that?

[denny]

I haven't tried a whole lot of hoppy beers aside from the one I was disappointed with so I'd rather hold my opinion on that for now because it could have been a programming error on my part. I'm going to try it again soon and will report back.

For really hoppy beers I increase hop amounts by 20%.  Seems to work for me.  I believe that will be dealt with in the new unit.

Don't have the handbook in front of me but there is a max they recommend for each bin. Do you just exceed that?

I assume you're using pellets?  You could probably get 3 oz. per bin easily.  Plus if you want to you can program a pause, pull out the step filter, and refill a cage.  If you use whole hops, the amount would be significantly less.

[majorvices]

Well, I just looked it up and it says 1.5 oz per compartment. Still, that's a lot of hops for a 2.5 gallon batch. I think I have gone 2 oz before. I'll try 3 for grins.

[cubsfan16]

I haven't tried a whole lot of hoppy beers aside from the one I was disappointed with so I'd rather hold my opinion on that for now because it could have been a programming error on my part. I'm going to try it again soon and will report back.

For really hoppy beers I increase hop amounts by 20%.  Seems to work for me.  I believe that will be dealt with in the new unit.

Don't have the handbook in front of me but there is a max they recommend for each bin. Do you just exceed that?

I assume you're using pellets?  You could probably get 3 oz. per bin easily.  Plus if you want to you can program a pause, pull out the step filter, and refill a cage.  If you use whole hops, the amount would be significantly less.

I believe picobrew recommends a max of 1.5oz per cage...I assume to allow for expansion once the pellets get wet.  You can do as Denny suggest  by using a pause step in the advanced editor.  If I am looking for a big 10min addition I often just program one for 11min and one for 10min and split the addition between 2 cages if I am not using all 4.

[majorvices]

I haven't tried a whole lot of hoppy beers aside from the one I was disappointed with so I'd rather hold my opinion on that for now because it could have been a programming error on my part. I'm going to try it again soon and will report back.

For really hoppy beers I increase hop amounts by 20%.  Seems to work for me.  I believe that will be dealt with in the new unit.

Don't have the handbook in front of me but there is a max they recommend for each bin. Do you just exceed that?

I assume you're using pellets?  You could probably get 3 oz. per bin easily.  Plus if you want to you can program a pause, pull out the step filter, and refill a cage.  If you use whole hops, the amount would be significantly less.

I believe picobrew recommends a max of 1.5oz per cage...I assume to allow for expansion once the pellets get wet.  You can do as Denny suggest  by using a pause step in the advanced editor.  If I am looking for a big 10min addition I often just program one for 11min and one for 10min and split the addition between 2 cages if I am not using all 4.

Yeah, I do realize you can pause and add more pellets. The potential for hops stands is also amazing. You could do a 24 hour (or longer) hop stand at 185 if you wanted.