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Eureka - the best new hop since Mosaic
« on: February 08, 2018, 06:42:13 PM »
I’ve been feeling pretty “meh” about most of the newest round of hops. I experimented with El Dorado, Vinnie’s Special, Ekuanot, Calypso, and a few others. They all struck me as “not hoppy” and unbalanced. I even had a not-easy time blending them. Nbd, I stuck with simcoe, cascade, mosaic, citra, galaxy, and other pre-2012 hops. But 2016 eureka was on sale at yvh when I was already buying other stuff, so I tried a pound.  Score.

This is the best new hop I’ve tried in a long while.


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Re: Eureka - the best new hop since Mosaic
« Reply #1 on: February 09, 2018, 02:16:06 AM »
So you are saying that Eureka hops made you say “Eureka?”. Couldn’t resist that temptation.

 I might have to get some based on that.
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Re: Eureka - the best new hop since Mosaic
« Reply #2 on: February 09, 2018, 03:55:07 AM »
What do you like about them?  Can you give us some descriptors?

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Re: Eureka - the best new hop since Mosaic
« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2018, 02:21:44 AM »
What do you like about them?  Can you give us some descriptors?

I would describe is as having a nice balance of piney, dank, resinous, and fruity. The fruit character is more "tropical" than "citrus," but it's balanced, not just fruity and otherwise dull. I guess I would say it's somewhere between Galaxy and Simcoe in flavor/aroma.

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Re: Eureka - the best new hop since Mosaic
« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2018, 02:27:23 AM »
Do you think it would be a great single-hop showcase, or would benefit from some additional character provided by other hops?  Also, what styles of beer have you been throwing it at?

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Re: Eureka - the best new hop since Mosaic
« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2018, 05:04:03 PM »
Do you think it would be a great single-hop showcase, or would benefit from some additional character provided by other hops?  Also, what styles of beer have you been throwing it at?

I used it in three beers so far (one is still fermenting). One beer was an IPA with a blend of a few different hops, and I liked the beer, but didn't really know what Eureka contributed. The beer that made me realize how much I liked it was:

10# pale malt
2# wheat malt
7 oz acid malt

3 mL hopshot 60 mins
1 oz Cascade 10 mins
2 oz Eureka Whirlpool (~170F)
3 oz Eureka Dry

West Coast water profile (~200 ppm sulfate, ~60ppm Chloride)

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Re: Eureka - the best new hop since Mosaic
« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2018, 06:09:53 PM »
saying it's the best new hop since Mosaic is not a selling point for me!  ;)
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Re: Eureka - the best new hop since Mosaic
« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2018, 03:22:55 PM »
saying it's the best new hop since Mosaic is not a selling point for me!  ;)

Fair enough. I’ll say that I generally agree with you about this newest round of hops - I call them “candy hops.” But I do love mosaic because I perceive it as fruity and resinous/dank, not just pure hard candy/pasteurized fruit juice.

FWIW, my favorite hops in hoppy American beers are (in no particular order): simcoe, cascade, citra, mosaic, ctz, Amarillo, galaxy, Nelson sauvin, and Chinook. I also like Apollo and summit, which many people don’t like, but I don’t usually like fuggles, el dorado, azacca, calypso, lemon drop, or sorachi ace in high quantities.


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Re: Eureka - the best new hop since Mosaic
« Reply #8 on: February 14, 2018, 09:06:19 PM »
Do you think it would be a great single-hop showcase, or would benefit from some additional character provided by other hops?  Also, what styles of beer have you been throwing it at?

I used it in three beers so far (one is still fermenting). One beer was an IPA with a blend of a few different hops, and I liked the beer, but didn't really know what Eureka contributed. The beer that made me realize how much I liked it was:

10# pale malt
2# wheat malt
7 oz acid malt

3 mL hopshot 60 mins
1 oz Cascade 10 mins
2 oz Eureka Whirlpool (~170F)
3 oz Eureka Dry

West Coast water profile (~200 ppm sulfate, ~60ppm Chloride)

Mash at 152F
 
1.060 og
WYeast 1318

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this hops, and a sample recipe.  I'm going to pick up some of these and give a recipe similar to yours a shot. Cheers!

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Re: Eureka - the best new hop since Mosaic
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2018, 04:40:43 PM »
saying it's the best new hop since Mosaic is not a selling point for me!  ;)

Fair enough. I’ll say that I generally agree with you about this newest round of hops - I call them “candy hops.” But I do love mosaic because I perceive it as fruity and resinous/dank, not just pure hard candy/pasteurized fruit juice.

FWIW, my favorite hops in hoppy American beers are (in no particular order): simcoe, cascade, citra, mosaic, ctz, Amarillo, galaxy, Nelson sauvin, and Chinook. I also like Apollo and summit, which many people don’t like, but I don’t usually like fuggles, el dorado, azacca, calypso, lemon drop, or sorachi ace in high quantities.


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I'm with you. Tookl me a minute to get my pallet around mosaic but I like it.Looking for ard to checking out Eureka!

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Re: Eureka - the best new hop since Mosaic
« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2018, 06:33:16 AM »
Great to hear -- I received about 10 1 oz samples this past weekend, and Eureka was one that I was intrigued by, along with a few experimentals from Hopsteiner. Now I know to keep and not give away in our club's "trash or treasure" monthly raffle!
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Re: Eureka - the best new hop since Mosaic
« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2018, 06:38:52 PM »
I have only used eureka one time and it was with mosaic so I do not have much feedback. If you are going for juicy hop though, I think it works well in late hop additions and dry hopping.

I have gotten away from IPAs but some of the new, new world hops tend to be my favorite in terms of aromatics. Have you tried motueka? That gives a nice stoney fruit.
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Re: Eureka - the best new hop since Mosaic
« Reply #12 on: March 02, 2018, 06:47:30 PM »
I have only used eureka one time and it was with mosaic so I do not have much feedback. If you are going for juicy hop though, I think it works well in late hop additions and dry hopping.

I have gotten away from IPAs but some of the new, new world hops tend to be my favorite in terms of aromatics. Have you tried motueka? That gives a nice stoney fruit.

I haven’t brewed with motueka because it is hard to get and expensive (I usually experiment with discounted/free hops). But I’ve drunk beer made with motueka and I like it all right. Nelson Sauvin and galaxy are two of my favorites, so I’m always interested in newer Oceanic varieties when they’re easily available.


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Re: Eureka - the best new hop since Mosaic
« Reply #13 on: March 02, 2018, 06:54:44 PM »
I have only used eureka one time and it was with mosaic so I do not have much feedback. If you are going for juicy hop though, I think it works well in late hop additions and dry hopping.

I have gotten away from IPAs but some of the new, new world hops tend to be my favorite in terms of aromatics. Have you tried motueka? That gives a nice stoney fruit.

I haven’t brewed with motueka because it is hard to get and expensive (I usually experiment with discounted/free hops). But I’ve drunk beer made with motueka and I like it all right. Nelson Sauvin and galaxy are two of my favorites, so I’m always interested in newer Oceanic varieties when they’re easily available.


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Re: Eureka - the best new hop since Mosaic
« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2018, 05:46:54 PM »
We did an IPA hop program at my club last fall. 30 IPAs, all of the same recipe, each with a different single hop. The two revelations for me were Denali and Michigan Copper. In a vote among attendees, Michigan Copper was the overall favorite. Eureka was not very favored, though I don't remember the vote tally.
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