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Brew Files Podcast Ep. 30 - Wild for Mild
« on: February 21, 2018, 04:53:57 PM »
https://www.experimentalbrew.com/podcast/brew-files-episode-30-wild-mild

With Session Beer Day right around the corner (April 7th), it's time to visit one of Drew's absolute favorite beer styles - Mild. This blandly named style has a long and interesting history with many variations of what it means to be mild. So how about digging into one of the best beers you can quaff over a long session. Flat caps optional, but awesome beer is mandatory.
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Re: Brew Files Podcast Ep. 30 - Wild for Mild
« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2018, 08:33:03 PM »
That was a good one.
It's too close to home
And it's too near the bone

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Re: Brew Files Podcast Ep. 30 - Wild for Mild
« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2018, 09:32:43 PM »
Life begins at 60.....1.060, that is!

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Re: Brew Files Podcast Ep. 30 - Wild for Mild
« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2018, 10:30:24 PM »
Dang, it's been a long time since I brewed a mild. I've got a big move planned for next week and probably not be brewing again for a while, but I definitely need to put a mild on the short list once I can manage to brew again.
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Re: Brew Files Podcast Ep. 30 - Wild for Mild
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2018, 11:59:47 PM »
I don't think I've ever had a Mild. Is it a type of IPA?

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Re: Brew Files Podcast Ep. 30 - Wild for Mild
« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2018, 12:53:33 AM »
I don't think I've ever had a Mild. Is it a type of IPA?
Originally, Mild could have turned into IPA! In the 19th c / early 20th c Mild meant a beer that was not aged, served as soon as fermentation was complete:  What we call cask ale, and back then Americans called cream ale.  If the beer was aged for months with Brett going at it, it was stock ale:  IPA was a marketing term for stock ale.   So a split batch of pale ale could yield a Mild right away and grow up to be an IPA, in theory!  Notice that not one of those terms (Mild, Cream Ale, IPA...) means now what it did 100 years ago! And then there are the counterparts on the Dark Side, 100 years ago called Porter (fresh on cask) and Stout (Brett aged)...
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Re: Brew Files Podcast Ep. 30 - Wild for Mild
« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2018, 02:15:37 AM »
Thanks Robert.

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Re: Brew Files Podcast Ep. 30 - Wild for Mild
« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2018, 02:22:24 AM »
Thanks Robert.
I haven't got around to listening to the podcast yet, but I'm sure it's about what they call mild now in England.  That's the descendent of porter:  really low alcohol,  dark, a little roasty.  Nearly extinct on its home soil.  You could probably make one from a batch sparged third running of one of your big double mashes!

EDIT 'cause Mild today was Porter then, and what was Mild then is now Bitter, and...  :o
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Re: Brew Files Podcast Ep. 30 - Wild for Mild
« Reply #8 on: February 25, 2018, 12:58:19 AM »
Sounds like there are multiple levels of "back then". I dont doubt Drew. So the take away is Mild, depending on when, is any beer drank fresh. I've made a lot of those, and had a few commercial examples. If you narrow it to current mild, <3.8% English ~10 IBU... No, I've never had one.

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Re: Brew Files Podcast Ep. 30 - Wild for Mild
« Reply #9 on: February 25, 2018, 01:13:15 AM »
Sounds like there are multiple levels of "back then". I dont doubt Drew. So the take away is Mild, depending on when, is any beer drank fresh. I've made a lot of those, and had a few commercial examples. If you narrow it to current mild, <3.8% English ~10 IBU... No, I've never had one.
Yeah, that's the thing with historical beers, the same names and words have evolved over time, and beers have too, but not locked together:  a beer and its name can break up and go their separate ways.  So in 1900 "cream ale" in the US was essentially what "English Bitter" is today.  Is that the "historical" cream ale? Not if you mean the 1930s beer of the same name.  It's the same with just about every style and name.  I think the mistake that's made in tracing the history of a style is just tracing recipes under the same name.  So a book on today's "mild" would have to work its way through things called porter, brown ale, and a dozen other names at some time.  A book on everything ever called "mild" -- or any other style name -- would make no sense, it would just be listing random unrelated beers.
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Re: Brew Files Podcast Ep. 30 - Wild for Mild
« Reply #10 on: February 25, 2018, 02:48:21 AM »
I’ve had mild in England.

This one had loads of flavor at 3.0%.
https://www.harveys.org.uk/beers/cask-ales/dark-mild/

The time we went to Ye Olde Trip to Jerusalem in Nottingham, they had 2 Milds on the handpumps. One was ~3.4%, and the other Susan called an Imperial Mild at a little over 5%. It was a fun day, and I switched from the 3.8% bitter I was drinking to the Mild, as it was milder, and we had time to kill waiting on the next train.

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Re: Brew Files Podcast Ep. 30 - Wild for Mild
« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2018, 03:02:59 AM »
I spent a few years in England at the end of the 80s.  Mild was rare as a unicorn at that time, but only recently so.  It was a joy to find one, especially as I recall 3.0% was high end of the examples remaining.  Some were 2.5ish.But more often than not they were found kegged, not casked.  You could enjoy one anytime, savor the flavor, and not worry about the alcohol. I recall Thwaites, which I believe a friend recommended at a pub called the Station, next to (of course) the station in Preston, Lancs.  Indeed a good choice if you have time to pass waiting on a train!
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Re: Brew Files Podcast Ep. 30 - Wild for Mild
« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2018, 10:53:14 PM »
My favorite Drew quote, "I'm not a pilsner guy."

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Re: Brew Files Podcast Ep. 30 - Wild for Mild
« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2018, 11:08:35 PM »
My favorite Drew quote, "I'm not a pilsner guy."

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Pilsner malt or beer?  I’ve had a good Pilsner (beer) but don’t particularly like Pilsner (malt). Not sure why. Just not a fan.


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Re: Brew Files Podcast Ep. 30 - Wild for Mild
« Reply #14 on: February 26, 2018, 01:08:40 AM »
In context, pilsner beer