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Ingredient Battles
« on: March 19, 2018, 10:55:24 AM »
It's my Friday and I work graveyard right now, so don't beat me up.

I'm sitting here enjoying a minute of home brew catharsis before calling it a day. Enjoying a glass of that double mash Imperial Stout i bottled up a couple weeks back. So, I found a je ne sais quoi in an English IPA recently, at first thought was from too much SO4. Maybe it was. But over time it kind of started hitting me as 'boiled peanut'. This RIS has been pretty enjoyable so far, the few bottles I've tried over the past couple weeks. This one tonight has something subtle I can't put my finger on. Not awful, just... hmmm. It has fuggles in it. So did the English IPA. It's probably just off taste buds on this one, because I never got it before. But im starting to wonder why I need to use fuggles, LOL.

What ingredients have you battled with?

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Re: Ingredient Battles
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2018, 11:59:12 AM »
I experimented with Fuggles for about a half dozen brews before deciding I just don't like the flavor of that hop. Its off my list.
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Re: Ingredient Battles
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2018, 12:34:11 PM »
Nelson Sauvignon hops, just do not like that cheap white wine thing I get from it.

I don’t brew German Wheat beers, as I just don’t like the clove phenolic flavor.

One category that I like is sours, but I have given them up due them triggering my acid reflux.
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Re: Ingredient Battles
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2018, 02:16:42 PM »
Any light specialty blended in with Pilsner --  Vienna, Munich, CaraHell, you name it.  These are meant to add complexity to a pale wort, but, to my palate, they just muddy the flavor. Somehow seems less malty to me.  Straight up base malt, to me, gives a much more well-defined and rich malt flavor.  This is a lesson I have to relearn periodically, and I just tapped a fresh keg of learning this weekend. 
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Re: Ingredient Battles
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2018, 02:21:59 PM »
Chico. I love SNPA, and other beers brewed with that yeast, but whenever I use it I'm always disappointed by it.
Corn is a fine adjunct in beer.

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Re: Ingredient Battles
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2018, 03:27:10 PM »
rye malt.  I keep trying to love it.
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Re: Ingredient Battles
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2018, 03:30:56 PM »
Herkules hops...who thought these were a good idea?
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Re: Ingredient Battles
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2018, 03:58:28 PM »
Herkules hops...who thought these were a good idea?
It is a little strange. Polaris is too.

I did have a German IPA from Spital when in Regensburg that the brewer said had Herkules for bittering, and Hallertau Cascade and Mandarina Bavaria for the later additions and dry hops. One of the better German IPAs that I have had, but more malt than we are used too.
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Re: Ingredient Battles
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2018, 10:21:36 PM »
I have a love/hate relationship with Summit hops. I love the tangerine character, but I haven't been able to use it without getting a savory onion ring/asiago character from it. I get a weird savory herbal character from Sorachi Ace from time to time as well, but it's hit or miss.

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Re: Ingredient Battles
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2018, 10:53:07 PM »
WY2007?  Not just your mind. That IS AB yeast!
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Re: Ingredient Battles
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2018, 01:00:46 AM »
I'm getting to a point of being done with Nottingham...I'm feeling like I'm not quite getting what I want from it. Going to brew some lagers, followed by a round of Norwegian ales.

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Re: Ingredient Battles
« Reply #11 on: March 20, 2018, 01:07:03 AM »
Denny hates Fuggels. I am not a kiss ass. Equals, I was determined to love them.


Hi, my name is Jim and I'm a fuggles hater.

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« Reply #12 on: March 20, 2018, 01:09:12 AM »
I love marzen Oktoberfest lagers -- the amber kind, not the yellow.  I used WLP820 numerous times before finally realizing that it's got to be the worst lager yeast on Earth.  Couldn't get an FG below like 1.020.  Switched over to anything else and always get a better product.  Current fave is 2206, which according to the old references is supposedly "equivalent" to WLP820 but let me tell you, it is absolutely NOT equivalent!!!!!!!!!!!

Also have had difficulties brewing a good hefeweizen for the past 15 years.  I used to be good at it, but I think then became too educated for my own good.  I should probably do a really shoddy extract batch next time and just be done with it, party like it's 1999.
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« Reply #13 on: March 20, 2018, 01:56:00 AM »
^^^^
"I used to be good at it, but I think then became too educated for my own good."

Quote of the year!!!
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Re: Ingredient Battles
« Reply #14 on: March 20, 2018, 10:45:17 AM »
Denny hates Fuggels. I am not a kiss ass. Equals, I was determined to love them.


Hi, my name is Jim and I'm a fuggles hater.

My local brewpub's beers all have that same "boiled peanut" flavor you describe. However, I'm pretty sure that most don't use fuggles. I mean their "Helles" has that flavor...
Corn is a fine adjunct in beer.

And don't buy stale beer.