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Which yeast is the best choice for a Märzen?

S-189 Swiss Lager
8 (61.5%)
M76 Bavarian Lager
0 (0%)
M84 Bohemian Lager
1 (7.7%)
W-34/70
4 (30.8%)

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Re: Best Dry Yeast for a Märzen
« Reply #15 on: March 26, 2018, 11:54:37 am »
I have switched from 34/70 to S-189 and prefer it in everything. It just seems to have more character to it even though I don't have the issue with 34/70 that others do.
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Re: Best Dry Yeast for a Märzen
« Reply #16 on: March 26, 2018, 01:10:54 pm »
I have switched from 34/70 to S-189 and prefer it in everything. It just seems to have more character to it even though I don't have the issue with 34/70 that others do.

Please tell me it floccs better than 34/70.  Use it in a pils yet? 
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Re: Best Dry Yeast for a Märzen
« Reply #17 on: March 26, 2018, 03:38:52 pm »
I have switched from 34/70 to S-189 and prefer it in everything. It just seems to have more character to it even though I don't have the issue with 34/70 that others do.

Please tell me it floccs better than 34/70.  Use it in a pils yet?

I have had no issues getting it to clear well but didn't have a problem with 34/70 either. I currently have a pilsner on fermented with 189 that is crystal clear.
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Re: Best Dry Yeast for a Märzen
« Reply #18 on: March 26, 2018, 04:08:48 pm »
I swear by S-189. Not a fan of 34/70. A Marzen is supposed to be malty and balanced. That's what I get from 189. I have made brilliantly clear and deliciously malty Maibocks, Viennas, Oktoberfests, dunkels, even light lagers with it. Ferment at 12 C, do the fast lager method, and no problems whatsoever. Have never done a hoppy Pilsner, so I can't say what it will do with that, but my experience with it has been very excellent!
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Re: Best Dry Yeast for a Märzen
« Reply #19 on: March 27, 2018, 09:24:55 am »
Thanks gents.  I will give S189 a shot.  Very interesting looking if you look a data of both strains.  S189 has 1% more attenuation... 
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Re: Best Dry Yeast for a Märzen
« Reply #20 on: March 27, 2018, 11:25:20 am »
Thanks gents.  I will give S189 a shot.  Very interesting looking if you look a data of both strains.  S189 has 1% more attenuation...

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Re: Best Dry Yeast for a Märzen
« Reply #21 on: March 27, 2018, 12:45:42 pm »
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Re: Best Dry Yeast for a Märzen
« Reply #22 on: March 27, 2018, 09:07:44 pm »
I like both S-189 and 34/70 for lagers.  But for a Marzen I voted S-189.
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« Reply #23 on: March 27, 2018, 09:20:38 pm »
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Re: Best Dry Yeast for a Märzen
« Reply #24 on: March 28, 2018, 02:37:53 pm »
Make a shaken starter off of preboil wort and pitch a bit later in the day.

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Re: Best Dry Yeast for a Märzen
« Reply #25 on: March 28, 2018, 08:53:58 pm »
Make a shaken starter off of preboil wort and pitch a bit later in the day.
Pull off into small pot, boil, chill, make starter. It does need to be boiled, no?
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Re: Best Dry Yeast for a Märzen
« Reply #26 on: March 28, 2018, 09:00:20 pm »
Make a shaken starter off of preboil wort and pitch a bit later in the day.
Pull off into small pot, boil, chill, make starter. It does need to be boiled, no?
Will be lots of lactobacilli from the grain husks, better boil.  Unless you can ensure that mash off time + temp = sufficient Pasteurization units, and do you feel lucky?  I would just simplify things and use chilled post boil wort. 
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Re: Best Dry Yeast for a Märzen
« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2018, 09:02:22 pm »
Make a shaken starter off of preboil wort and pitch a bit later in the day.
Pull off into small pot, boil, chill, make starter. It does need to be boiled, no?
Well yeah. I meant preboil as in after lauter and before hops. Done it myself. Works great and resolves the “I don’t want to dilute my beer” concern.

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Re: Best Dry Yeast for a Märzen
« Reply #28 on: March 28, 2018, 09:03:07 pm »
Make a shaken starter off of preboil wort and pitch a bit later in the day.
Pull off into small pot, boil, chill, make starter. It does need to be boiled, no?
Will be lots of lactobacilli from the grain husks, better boil.  Unless you can ensure that mash off time + temp = sufficient Pasteurization units, and do you feel lucky?  I would just simplify things and use chilled post boil wort.
Yes, boil the starter.

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Re: Best Dry Yeast for a Märzen
« Reply #29 on: March 29, 2018, 08:52:23 am »
Make a shaken starter off of preboil wort and pitch a bit later in the day.
Pull off into small pot, boil, chill, make starter. It does need to be boiled, no?
Well yeah. I meant preboil as in after lauter and before hops. Done it myself. Works great and resolves the “I don’t want to dilute my beer” concern.

For lagers I will wait several hours to dump the Trub from the conical. The yeast has had enough time to be ready to go. The wort has been sitting at 46F, so no worries.
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