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Offline tfrommer

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Nitro / beer gas + canister questions
« on: April 02, 2018, 10:42:40 am »
<I cross-posted this on the Home Brew Talk forums so apologies if it's a dupe for you.>

An online discussion kicked up over the weekend among some guys in my homebrew club. Myself and one other recently acquired or were gifted nitrogen canisters and / or a nitrogen regulator to serve our English ales and stouts. Our local welding supply company -- where we all get our CO2 canisters swapped -- has 75/25 beer gas but only in CO2 canisters. We may be about to set up a pop-up eBay shop to unload our brand-new items, but I digress.

  • Is that typical (vs having beer gas mix in nitro cylinders?) or just a quirk of our local shop?
  • A side conversation popped up about 100% nitro. One person who owns a homebrew supply shop says he stocks 100% nitro but only folks using it for cold brew coffee buy it from him. Why wouldn't you use 100% nitro for beer?
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Offline Stevie

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Nitro / beer gas + canister questions
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2018, 11:14:36 am »
You don’t use 100% nitro because it doesn’t dissolve easily in beer, still need some co2. The coffee people don’t want co2.

I wouldn’t say it is typical for a standard co2 cylinder to be used, but I’ve heard it in other places as well.

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Re: Nitro / beer gas + canister questions
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2018, 11:39:19 am »
Because nitro doesn't dissolve well, mixed gas (nitro and CO2) is also used in long-run draught systems in order to get the required dispense pressure without extra CO2 pressure, which over time would dissolve and overcarbonate the beer.
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Re: Nitro / beer gas + canister questions
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2018, 02:54:08 pm »
Often times on the above mentioned long run draught systems, 2 cylinders are used: 1 Co2 and one Nitro. The system uses a down stream mixer to mix the 2 at desired proportions. This is what we always used in the restaurants and bars I worked at in the past
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Re: Nitro / beer gas + canister questions
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2018, 05:44:09 pm »
Often times on the above mentioned long run draught systems, 2 cylinders are used: 1 Co2 and one Nitro. The system uses a down stream mixer to mix the 2 at desired proportions. This is what we always used in the restaurants and bars I worked at in the past
Or a nitrogen generator is installed to eliminate the need for nitrogen bottles.

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Re: Nitro / beer gas + canister questions
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2018, 07:36:32 pm »
See if your gas supplier carries, or can get you, a converter for your nitro regulators.  there is a product that allows you to use a c02 regulator with a converter that can attach to a nitro /beer gas tank.  They may have the same thing for nitro to C02
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