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Anchor Liberty Ale
« on: April 17, 2018, 06:36:57 PM »
What do you all think of Anchor Liberty Ale?

I had some last night and want to hear what the hive mind has to offer.
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Re: Anchor Liberty Ale
« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2018, 06:52:24 PM »
When fresh, it's a good standard IPA. I'm starting to miss "standard" American IPAs like this one, everyone is doing whacky new hops that don't appeal to me as much.

The issue is, my neck of the woods, it's never fresh, and is priced at a premium.
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Re: Anchor Liberty Ale
« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2018, 07:11:57 PM »
I haven't seen it around here for years.  As the very first American IPA, it was a real shocker when it first appeared, nobody had tried anything like it.  It almost single-handedly  saved Cascade hops from abandonment.   Quite a legacy.  But it seems not to warrent shelf space as an unfashionable, 40-odd-year-old relic.  I would really like to try it again.  As extreme as it once seemed, it might actually be almost  restrained enough for my tastes (relative to everything else out there) today.
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Re: Anchor Liberty Ale
« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2018, 07:55:50 PM »
Liberty is the Luke, Han, and Chewy of IPAs. Everything else is Jar Jar

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Re: Anchor Liberty Ale
« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2018, 08:42:19 PM »
Liberty is the Luke, Han, and Chewy of IPAs. Everything else is Jar Jar

Without Liberty, there may not have been an American IPA.
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Re: Anchor Liberty Ale
« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2018, 09:14:14 PM »
I haven't seen it around here for years.  As the very first American IPA, it was a real shocker when it first appeared, nobody had tried anything like it.  It almost single-handedly  saved Cascade hops from abandonment.   Quite a legacy.  But it seems not to warrent shelf space as an unfashionable, 40-odd-year-old relic.  I would really like to try it again.  As extreme as it once seemed, it might actually be almost  restrained enough for my tastes (relative to everything else out there) today.

Really?  I don’t mean that in a snarky tone, I just have always thought that Bert Grant had the first Post-Prohibition AIPA.  I know he had the first brew pub, and was an evangelist for hoppy beers.  However he never was as big as Anchor.
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Re: Anchor Liberty Ale
« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2018, 09:46:46 PM »
I am not a fan.  Maybe I'm not getting it fresh, but to me it's harsh.
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Re: Anchor Liberty Ale
« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2018, 10:09:29 PM »
I haven't seen it around here for years.  As the very first American IPA, it was a real shocker when it first appeared, nobody had tried anything like it.  It almost single-handedly  saved Cascade hops from abandonment.   Quite a legacy.  But it seems not to warrent shelf space as an unfashionable, 40-odd-year-old relic.  I would really like to try it again.  As extreme as it once seemed, it might actually be almost  restrained enough for my tastes (relative to everything else out there) today.

Really?  I don’t mean that in a snarky tone, I just have always thought that Bert Grant had the first Post-Prohibition AIPA.  I know he had the first brew pub, and was an evangelist for hoppy beers.  However he never was as big as Anchor.
Anchor Liberty came out in '75, well before Grant's pub opened, but of course it was never called an IPA (or anything else, "style" really wasn't a thing yet) so Bert may well have repopularized the term.  But it doesn't matter.  If Liberty is Luke, Han and Chewy, then Bert was running the Mos Eisly (sp?) Cantina. Without him, the Galaxy doesn't get saved. Now that you've brought him up, I really could go for a Grant's Celtic Ale.  Need a time machine, dammit.
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Re: Anchor Liberty Ale
« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2018, 10:38:46 PM »
Interesting.  What style was the Celtic Ale?  I know one of his brewers... maybe he’d have some info on the recipe.
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Re: Anchor Liberty Ale
« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2018, 10:59:09 PM »
Interesting.  What style was the Celtic Ale?  I know one of his brewers... maybe he’d have some info on the recipe.
"Style" again, hmm.  As I remember it, it was amber, malty, chewy and lightly fruity... it was probably supposed to be a mild,  but it was too hoppy (of course it was too hoppy, Bert Grant made it.)  I used to enjoy it in the early '90s, and having spent the late '80s in England, it was the sort of British-ish thing that really satisfied my yearnings.  It's probably mutated in my memory, but if I had a recipe, yeah, I might just temporarily ditch my lager yeast and have a go for old times' sake.
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Re: Anchor Liberty Ale
« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2018, 11:30:38 PM »

"Style" again, hmm.  As I remember it, it was amber, malty, chewy and lightly fruity... it was probably supposed to be a mild,  but it was too hoppy (of course it was too hoppy, Bert Grant made it.)

*cough*
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Re: Anchor Liberty Ale
« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2018, 11:59:32 PM »

"Style" again, hmm.  As I remember it, it was amber, malty, chewy and lightly fruity... it was probably supposed to be a mild,  but it was too hoppy (of course it was too hoppy, Bert Grant made it.)

*cough*
http://barclayperkins.blogspot.com/2017/06/lets-brew-1862-barclay-perkins-xx.html
*cough*
True, but as I've pointed out before, "mild" has meant different things in different times and places.  For a late 20th century English Mild, if that's what Celtic Ale was, it was very Bert Grantishly over hopped.  He started out as a hop R&D guy, not a brewer, after all.
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Re: Anchor Liberty Ale
« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2018, 01:21:47 AM »
My favorite beer to fail to reproduce. Gonna keep trying, though! They've gone through some changes and jettisoned some pretty good beers over the years (the Bock was really good), but that Liberty Ale...

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Re: Anchor Liberty Ale
« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2018, 01:55:35 AM »
My favorite beer to fail to reproduce. Gonna keep trying, though! They've gone through some changes and jettisoned some pretty good beers over the years (the Bock was really good), but that Liberty Ale...

Isn't that the funny thing, trying to reproduce a beer.  Liberty should be so simple:  the grist is (as far as anyone knows) just 2 row brewers malt, the hops are just Cascade, and the yeast is available too -- WY1272.  And yet some something is different in your brewery from theirs....  Nonetheless, if you take these three ingredients and brew something, it's likely to be worthwhile in its own right. Simplicity is good.  And complicated at the same time. 
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Re: Anchor Liberty Ale
« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2018, 10:16:29 AM »
Used to be able to get it here in Alabama in the mid to late 90's, believe it or not. I remember it to be clean and grapefruity.