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Re: whirlpool/dry hops? how much?
« Reply #15 on: July 17, 2018, 08:13:32 PM »
How about containing the hops in a mesh container in a keg and periodically jumping the beer back and forth to another, à la torpedo?   Oxygen pickup at the outset would still be a problem. Maybe just flush that keg with CO2 the best you can.  Anyway it's just an idea you could play with.
I use a sure screen (works better than a mesh bag and allows the hops to be commando rather than constrained).  I used to flip the keg every day to reagitate the hops, but got lazy and haven't done that in some time.  Since I make 10 gallon batches, a test of flipping (which would marginally simulate what keith is doing) one keg and not the other might be interesting to try out.
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Re: whirlpool/dry hops? how much?
« Reply #16 on: July 17, 2018, 08:32:49 PM »
How about containing the hops in a mesh container in a keg and periodically jumping the beer back and forth to another, à la torpedo?   Oxygen pickup at the outset would still be a problem. Maybe just flush that keg with CO2 the best you can.  Anyway it's just an idea you could play with.
I use a sure screen (works better than a mesh bag and allows the hops to be commando rather than constrained).  I used to flip the keg every day to reagitate the hops, but got lazy and haven't done that in some time.  Since I make 10 gallon batches, a test of flipping (which would marginally simulate what keith is doing) one keg and not the other might be interesting to try out.

Yeah that's way simpler.  I guess Keith can't really flip his tanks LOL,  recirc is the only option at that scale.  Maybe this is one of those cases where homebrewers are actually at an advantage.
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Re: whirlpool/dry hops? how much?
« Reply #17 on: July 18, 2018, 03:42:02 AM »
I absolutely LOVE the new Cryo hops from YCH!!! I've used Citra and Mosaic so far and you can get a huge hop punch with less hop material, so you don't get any grassy, vegetal flavor from tossing a metric f@#k ton of hops in. I have gone to a small bittering charge as FWH and then everything else that was in my old recipes (those 30-15-5-0 additions) gets moved to the whirlpool. I chill to 170 and whirlpool for  about 30 minutes. That usually drops to around 150. They stay in the wort through chilling and runoff into the fermenter. I'm really digging the beers I'm making these days!

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Re: whirlpool/dry hops? how much?
« Reply #18 on: July 18, 2018, 11:53:23 AM »
How about containing the hops in a mesh container in a keg and periodically jumping the beer back and forth to another, à la torpedo?   Oxygen pickup at the outset would still be a problem. Maybe just flush that keg with CO2 the best you can.  Anyway it's just an idea you could play with.
It is some time and effort, but I have had excellent results using my HopRocket as a torpedo, and transferbetween kegs. Receiving keg is purged. Load HopRocket with whole cone hops, purge the HopRocket and lines with CO2. Transfer beer slowly. You can then transfer back and forth between the kegs to get the exposure time to the hops. I think I did it 4 times and really liked the results.

I need to do this again. Finding whole cone hops has been hard of late, but my LHBS has some ounces in again. Time to do that technique again.
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Re: whirlpool/dry hops? how much?
« Reply #19 on: July 18, 2018, 05:25:21 PM »
How about containing the hops in a mesh container in a keg and periodically jumping the beer back and forth to another, à la torpedo?   Oxygen pickup at the outset would still be a problem. Maybe just flush that keg with CO2 the best you can.  Anyway it's just an idea you could play with.
I use a sure screen (works better than a mesh bag and allows the hops to be commando rather than constrained).  I used to flip the keg every day to reagitate the hops, but got lazy and haven't done that in some time.  Since I make 10 gallon batches, a test of flipping (which would marginally simulate what keith is doing) one keg and not the other might be interesting to try out.

Yeah that's way simpler.  I guess Keith can't really flip his tanks LOL,  recirc is the only option at that scale.  Maybe this is one of those cases where homebrewers are actually at an advantage.

I think this is a case where having a conical has an advantage. But agree there are multiple ways to achieve the same ends.

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Re: whirlpool/dry hops? how much?
« Reply #20 on: July 18, 2018, 05:27:01 PM »
How about containing the hops in a mesh container in a keg and periodically jumping the beer back and forth to another, à la torpedo?   Oxygen pickup at the outset would still be a problem. Maybe just flush that keg with CO2 the best you can.  Anyway it's just an idea you could play with.
I use a sure screen (works better than a mesh bag and allows the hops to be commando rather than constrained).  I used to flip the keg every day to reagitate the hops, but got lazy and haven't done that in some time.  Since I make 10 gallon batches, a test of flipping (which would marginally simulate what keith is doing) one keg and not the other might be interesting to try out.

Yeah that's way simpler.  I guess Keith can't really flip his tanks LOL,  recirc is the only option at that scale.  Maybe this is one of those cases where homebrewers are actually at an advantage.

I think this is a case where having a conical has an advantage. But agree there are multiple ways to achieve the same ends.

I have a couple but yeast removal, at least with mine, is not satisfactory


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Re: whirlpool/dry hops? how much?
« Reply #21 on: July 18, 2018, 06:11:04 PM »


I have a couple but yeast removal, at least with mine, is not satisfactory


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Bummer! We have a little 14 gallon one at brewery maybe I'll play around with it soon.

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Re: whirlpool/dry hops? how much?
« Reply #22 on: July 19, 2018, 07:10:46 PM »
My thought is that you could bubble in CO2 from the liquid-in on a corny keg to stir up the hops, let them settle, then repeat the process. It wouldn't quite be the same as a full-on recirc, but it would keep things moving around.
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Re: whirlpool/dry hops? how much?
« Reply #23 on: July 20, 2018, 02:39:09 PM »
My thought is that you could bubble in CO2 from the liquid-in on a corny keg to stir up the hops, let them settle, then repeat the process. It wouldn't quite be the same as a full-on recirc, but it would keep things moving around.

I like that idea.  I will try that!
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Re: whirlpool/dry hops? how much?
« Reply #24 on: July 20, 2018, 06:20:23 PM »
My thought is that you could bubble in CO2 from the liquid-in on a corny keg to stir up the hops, let them settle, then repeat the process. It wouldn't quite be the same as a full-on recirc, but it would keep things moving around.

I like that idea.  I will try that!
It's a trick I sometimes use to mix in finings.  Ought to mix anything.  Be careful though or you'll be foaming at the PRV!  :o
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Re: whirlpool/dry hops? how much?
« Reply #25 on: July 20, 2018, 06:26:09 PM »
My thought is that you could bubble in CO2 from the liquid-in on a corny keg to stir up the hops, let them settle, then repeat the process. It wouldn't quite be the same as a full-on recirc, but it would keep things moving around.

I like that idea.  I will try that!
It's a trick I sometimes use to mix in finings.  Ought to mix anything.  Be careful though or you'll be foaming at the PRV!  :o

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