[denny]

My use of the word “rejected” probably had connotations that were not intended.  Let’s say “passed over” or “not selected”...my point is that there are priority purchasers who receive a first shot at evaluation, typically.  Am I wrong?

Not exactly.  But AFAIK, it is based on when brewers schedule their visits to YC, not on a plan to withhold hops.  And also AFAIK, homebrew wholesalers are afforded the same opportunity as commercial breweries.

[hopfenundmalz]

My use of the word “rejected” probably had connotations that were not intended.  Let’s say “passed over” or “not selected”...my point is that there are priority purchasers who receive a first shot at evaluation, typically.  Am I wrong?

Not exactly.  But AFAIK, it is based on when brewers schedule their visits to YC, not on a plan to withhold hops.  And also AFAIK, homebrew wholesalers are afforded the same opportunity as commercial breweries.

True, but let's say Sierra Nevada selects hops in quantity, then those lots are off the table for the next group. Sierra had a video on FB a few weeks back when they were doing hop selection, looking for 200,000 lbs. I recognized YCH in the video, you will recognize Terence

https://youtu.be/Bh2btlpomvA

[denny]

My use of the word “rejected” probably had connotations that were not intended.  Let’s say “passed over” or “not selected”...my point is that there are priority purchasers who receive a first shot at evaluation, typically.  Am I wrong?

Not exactly.  But AFAIK, it is based on when brewers schedule their visits to YC, not on a plan to withhold hops.  And also AFAIK, homebrew wholesalers are afforded the same opportunity as commercial breweries.

True, but let's say Sierra Nevada selects hops in quantity, then those lots are off the table for the next group. Sierra had a video on FB a few weeks back when they were doing hop selection, looking for 200,000 lbs. I recognized YCH in the video, you will recognize Terence

https://youtu.be/Bh2btlpomvA

Yep, obviously that's true.  But there is no plan to keep certain hops away from homebrewers.

EDIT:  Just watched the video...we've been to all of those places!

[hopfenundmalz]

My use of the word “rejected” probably had connotations that were not intended.  Let’s say “passed over” or “not selected”...my point is that there are priority purchasers who receive a first shot at evaluation, typically.  Am I wrong?

Not exactly.  But AFAIK, it is based on when brewers schedule their visits to YC, not on a plan to withhold hops.  And also AFAIK, homebrew wholesalers are afforded the same opportunity as commercial breweries.

True, but let's say Sierra Nevada selects hops in quantity, then those lots are off the table for the next group. Sierra had a video on FB a few weeks back when they were doing hop selection, looking for 200,000 lbs. I recognized YCH in the video, you will recognize Terence

https://youtu.be/Bh2btlpomvA

Yep, obviously that's true.  But there is no plan to keep certain hops away from homebrewers.

It's business, not a conspiracy. I'm often surprised at how good the hops are!

[ynotbrusum]

My use of the word “rejected” probably had connotations that were not intended.  Let’s say “passed over” or “not selected”...my point is that there are priority purchasers who receive a first shot at evaluation, typically.  Am I wrong?

Not exactly.  But AFAIK, it is based on when brewers schedule their visits to YC, not on a plan to withhold hops.  And also AFAIK, homebrew wholesalers are afforded the same opportunity as commercial breweries.

True, but let's say Sierra Nevada selects hops in quantity, then those lots are off the table for the next group. Sierra had a video on FB a few weeks back when they were doing hop selection, looking for 200,000 lbs. I recognized YCH in the video, you will recognize Terence

https://youtu.be/Bh2btlpomvA

Yep, obviously that's true.  But there is no plan to keep certain hops away from homebrewers.

It's business, not a conspiracy. I'm often surprised at how good the hops are!

Not saying anything about conspiracy.  Just late/ sometimes last dibs.  Natural order of business and the hobbyist is not likely to get the best hops every time.  As expected.  I am a user of foreign hops and I am sure it is similar regarding them.

[hopfenundmalz]

My use of the word “rejected” probably had connotations that were not intended.  Let’s say “passed over” or “not selected”...my point is that there are priority purchasers who receive a first shot at evaluation, typically.  Am I wrong?

Not exactly.  But AFAIK, it is based on when brewers schedule their visits to YC, not on a plan to withhold hops.  And also AFAIK, homebrew wholesalers are afforded the same opportunity as commercial breweries.

True, but let's say Sierra Nevada selects hops in quantity, then those lots are off the table for the next group. Sierra had a video on FB a few weeks back when they were doing hop selection, looking for 200,000 lbs. I recognized YCH in the video, you will recognize Terence

https://youtu.be/Bh2btlpomvA

Yep, obviously that's true.  But there is no plan to keep certain hops away from homebrewers.

It's business, not a conspiracy. I'm often surprised at how good the hops are!

Not saying anything about conspiracy.  Just late/ sometimes last dibs.  Natural order of business and the hobbyist is not likely to get the best hops every time.  As expected.  I am a user of foreign hops and I am sure it is similar regarding them.

I had some Hallertau hops with seeds once.

[klickitat jim]

Depends on who the hop buyer is I guess. I'm quite certain Ted Hausotter of Hop Heaven personally selects his hops on site.

[Robert]

I buy a lot from Hops Direct.   Obviously they're selecting their own, and everything I've ever had has been top shelf.   Just got a pound of Amarillo,  and seem to be getting a good bit of sulfur.   Notice a bit more brown than most hops from them.  So it could be the late harvest thing -- the alpha is pretty high.   But I also wonder if it's my perception (though I'm usually not oversensitive to sulfur compounds,  not a broccoli hater for instance, and don't recall getting this from Amarillo before.)  Anyway I figure I'll do a single hop beer and see how they play.

EDIT/ CORRECTION/ RETRACTION
Did another rub and sniff tonight and I cannot detect any of the sulfur/ onion/ garlic I thought I was picking up last night.   Hops Direct still batting 1.000 in my experience.  My nose apparently more prone to a slump.  I will do that single hop beer anyway, more confidently.

[Lazy Ant Brewing]

A different beverage but still onion and garlic flavor .  .  .

We got milk from my uncle's cows when I was a kid. In the spring months, the cows would eat wild onions and the taste of garlic would carry over into their milk. Pasteurizing would make ti safe to drink, but did nothing to remove that taste.

[trapae]

Update....
A week ago I got another batch of this hop from a different distributor. Upon opening it I got no onion or garlic. A lot of cherry and tropical smell. I did the hop test with a couple pellets in a bud light bottle and like the taste and smell quite a bit.