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ABInbev is driven by a corporate business model. That business model produces a LOT of good for a LOT of people thru sponsorship, charity, employment, etc. However, their business model also eliminates competition to gain market share. Bitter sweet. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Quote from: ynotbrusum on January 15, 2019, 01:04:59 pmYou both are probably right, as it may help forecast trends for emerging craft styles or specialty ingredients or any number of trackable data...though one would think that there are more efficient ways of mining that data (a la Amazon’s recent location search - municipalities laid bare inumerable treasure troves of data which Amazon gladly accepted.)ABI has enough money to experiment. I doubt "most efficient" is a criteria. They're more interested in keeping an eye on trends.
You both are probably right, as it may help forecast trends for emerging craft styles or specialty ingredients or any number of trackable data...though one would think that there are more efficient ways of mining that data (a la Amazon’s recent location search - municipalities laid bare inumerable treasure troves of data which Amazon gladly accepted.)
Quote from: goose on January 15, 2019, 07:21:05 amI normally try to stay away from NB as well. However, I recently had to replace the pump on my wort chiller and bought a Riptide pump. I shopped around to try to get the best deal on the pump and NB had the pump with the flow control stainless steel head as a complete unit for less money that I could buy the pump and pump head separately from other sources. So I bit my tongue and ordered it from them because it saved me almost $100.That said I too get really good service from other sources (like More Beer and Brewers Hardware Supply) on various brewery items and will continue to use them whenever possible.Did you check Brewhardware for that Riptide? That's where I got mine.I don't see my sign that ABI is trying to control the homebrew market. It seems to be more to be aware of trends that they can use to their advantage.
I normally try to stay away from NB as well. However, I recently had to replace the pump on my wort chiller and bought a Riptide pump. I shopped around to try to get the best deal on the pump and NB had the pump with the flow control stainless steel head as a complete unit for less money that I could buy the pump and pump head separately from other sources. So I bit my tongue and ordered it from them because it saved me almost $100.That said I too get really good service from other sources (like More Beer and Brewers Hardware Supply) on various brewery items and will continue to use them whenever possible.
Quote from: BrewBama on January 15, 2019, 06:38:11 amABInbev is driven by a corporate business model. That business model produces a LOT of good for a LOT of people thru sponsorship, charity, employment, etc. However, their business model also eliminates competition to gain market share. Bitter sweet. Sent from my iPad using TapatalkThe employees from Beck’s would strongly disagree with you as they all lost their jobs as it’s no longer been brewed in Germany, but in St Louis. But I’ve also read that they typically streamline the businesses they buy eventually, so not all employees benefit.
Quote from: rodwha on January 30, 2019, 08:44:47 amQuote from: BrewBama on January 15, 2019, 06:38:11 amABInbev is driven by a corporate business model. That business model produces a LOT of good for a LOT of people thru sponsorship, charity, employment, etc. However, their business model also eliminates competition to gain market share. Bitter sweet. Sent from my iPad using TapatalkThe employees from Beck’s would strongly disagree with you as they all lost their jobs as it’s no longer been brewed in Germany, but in St Louis. But I’ve also read that they typically streamline the businesses they buy eventually, so not all employees benefit.The Beck's for the US market is brewed in St. Louis. For Germany it is still brewed in Bremen. If you have info that says that is not true, please post.Highlighted section in this.https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thestreet.com/amp/story/13225511/1/10-beers-that-arent-made-where-you-think-they-are-are-you-drinking-a-lie.html
Quote from: hopfenundmalz on January 30, 2019, 09:17:48 amQuote from: rodwha on January 30, 2019, 08:44:47 amQuote from: BrewBama on January 15, 2019, 06:38:11 amABInbev is driven by a corporate business model. That business model produces a LOT of good for a LOT of people thru sponsorship, charity, employment, etc. However, their business model also eliminates competition to gain market share. Bitter sweet. Sent from my iPad using TapatalkThe employees from Beck’s would strongly disagree with you as they all lost their jobs as it’s no longer been brewed in Germany, but in St Louis. But I’ve also read that they typically streamline the businesses they buy eventually, so not all employees benefit.The Beck's for the US market is brewed in St. Louis. For Germany it is still brewed in Bremen. If you have info that says that is not true, please post.Highlighted section in this.https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thestreet.com/amp/story/13225511/1/10-beers-that-arent-made-where-you-think-they-are-are-you-drinking-a-lie.htmlIIRC Beck's was founded strictly as an exporting company and for most of its existence the brand was not even sold in Germany. In that context moving production to the geographic market makes perfect sense. Like building Toyotas here.Sent from my SM-J727V using Tapatalk
Quote from: Robert on January 30, 2019, 10:01:45 amQuote from: hopfenundmalz on January 30, 2019, 09:17:48 amQuote from: rodwha on January 30, 2019, 08:44:47 amQuote from: BrewBama on January 15, 2019, 06:38:11 amABInbev is driven by a corporate business model. That business model produces a LOT of good for a LOT of people thru sponsorship, charity, employment, etc. However, their business model also eliminates competition to gain market share. Bitter sweet. Sent from my iPad using TapatalkThe employees from Beck’s would strongly disagree with you as they all lost their jobs as it’s no longer been brewed in Germany, but in St Louis. But I’ve also read that they typically streamline the businesses they buy eventually, so not all employees benefit.The Beck's for the US market is brewed in St. Louis. For Germany it is still brewed in Bremen. If you have info that says that is not true, please post.Highlighted section in this.https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thestreet.com/amp/story/13225511/1/10-beers-that-arent-made-where-you-think-they-are-are-you-drinking-a-lie.htmlIIRC Beck's was founded strictly as an exporting company and for most of its existence the brand was not even sold in Germany. In that context moving production to the geographic market makes perfect sense. Like building Toyotas here.Sent from my SM-J727V using TapatalkThat is not true for Beck's, one of the top 5 selling brands in Germany.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_brewing_companies_in_Germany#Best-selling_brandsSt. Pauli Girl is what you thinking about. My German friend from Hamburg liked that, and it was only for the US. The Reaperbahn red light district is in the St. Pauli district of Hamburg. A St. Pauli girl is local slang for prostitute.
Quote from: hopfenundmalz on January 30, 2019, 11:23:40 amQuote from: Robert on January 30, 2019, 10:01:45 amQuote from: hopfenundmalz on January 30, 2019, 09:17:48 amQuote from: rodwha on January 30, 2019, 08:44:47 amQuote from: BrewBama on January 15, 2019, 06:38:11 amABInbev is driven by a corporate business model. That business model produces a LOT of good for a LOT of people thru sponsorship, charity, employment, etc. However, their business model also eliminates competition to gain market share. Bitter sweet. Sent from my iPad using TapatalkThe employees from Beck’s would strongly disagree with you as they all lost their jobs as it’s no longer been brewed in Germany, but in St Louis. But I’ve also read that they typically streamline the businesses they buy eventually, so not all employees benefit.The Beck's for the US market is brewed in St. Louis. For Germany it is still brewed in Bremen. If you have info that says that is not true, please post.Highlighted section in this.https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thestreet.com/amp/story/13225511/1/10-beers-that-arent-made-where-you-think-they-are-are-you-drinking-a-lie.htmlIIRC Beck's was founded strictly as an exporting company and for most of its existence the brand was not even sold in Germany. In that context moving production to the geographic market makes perfect sense. Like building Toyotas here.Sent from my SM-J727V using TapatalkThat is not true for Beck's, one of the top 5 selling brands in Germany.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_brewing_companies_in_Germany#Best-selling_brandsSt. Pauli Girl is what you thinking about. My German friend from Hamburg liked that, and it was only for the US. The Reaperbahn red light district is in the St. Pauli district of Hamburg. A St. Pauli girl is local slang for prostitute.I remember Michael Jackson and other sources reported that Beck's was an export brand only until sometime after the 80s, I don't recall the exact timing. Its sister company, Haacke-Beck, was always a domestic producer, which had started Beck's as an international venture. I know Beck's sells very well in Germany now. St Pauli Girl's producer, Bavaria St Pauli, always produced domestic products as well. All three had adjoining brewery complexes and corporate linkages, at least before AB InBev's acqusition.Sent from my SM-J727V using Tapatalk
Quote from: Robert on January 30, 2019, 12:16:48 pmQuote from: hopfenundmalz on January 30, 2019, 11:23:40 amQuote from: Robert on January 30, 2019, 10:01:45 amQuote from: hopfenundmalz on January 30, 2019, 09:17:48 amQuote from: rodwha on January 30, 2019, 08:44:47 amQuote from: BrewBama on January 15, 2019, 06:38:11 amABInbev is driven by a corporate business model. That business model produces a LOT of good for a LOT of people thru sponsorship, charity, employment, etc. However, their business model also eliminates competition to gain market share. Bitter sweet. Sent from my iPad using TapatalkThe employees from Beck’s would strongly disagree with you as they all lost their jobs as it’s no longer been brewed in Germany, but in St Louis. But I’ve also read that they typically streamline the businesses they buy eventually, so not all employees benefit.The Beck's for the US market is brewed in St. Louis. For Germany it is still brewed in Bremen. If you have info that says that is not true, please post.Highlighted section in this.https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.thestreet.com/amp/story/13225511/1/10-beers-that-arent-made-where-you-think-they-are-are-you-drinking-a-lie.htmlIIRC Beck's was founded strictly as an exporting company and for most of its existence the brand was not even sold in Germany. In that context moving production to the geographic market makes perfect sense. Like building Toyotas here.Sent from my SM-J727V using TapatalkThat is not true for Beck's, one of the top 5 selling brands in Germany.https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_brewing_companies_in_Germany#Best-selling_brandsSt. Pauli Girl is what you thinking about. My German friend from Hamburg liked that, and it was only for the US. The Reaperbahn red light district is in the St. Pauli district of Hamburg. A St. Pauli girl is local slang for prostitute.I remember Michael Jackson and other sources reported that Beck's was an export brand only until sometime after the 80s, I don't recall the exact timing. Its sister company, Haacke-Beck, was always a domestic producer, which had started Beck's as an international venture. I know Beck's sells very well in Germany now. St Pauli Girl's producer, Bavaria St Pauli, always produced domestic products as well. All three had adjoining brewery complexes and corporate linkages, at least before AB InBev's acqusition.Sent from my SM-J727V using TapatalkLearn something everyday!Beck's merged with Haake-Beck, and Beck's concentrated on export.https://www.encyclopedia.com/social-sciences-and-law/economics-business-and-labor/businesses-and-occupations/brauerei-beck-co