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Re: your favorite commercial Pilsner
« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2019, 12:43:58 PM »
While its not my favorite Pils of all time, Northcoast Scrimshaw has been tasting pretty nice lately. They've apparently made improvements in their recipe or production methods.
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Re: your favorite commercial Pilsner
« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2019, 03:14:10 PM »




Bit is a guaranteed fresh Pils in a can no less. I get fresh 4 packs all day where I’m at.

I envy you for your distributor,  sir.

Really?  I buy 4 packs at Trader Joe's and they're always great.
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Re: your favorite commercial Pilsner
« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2019, 07:51:35 PM »




Bit is a guaranteed fresh Pils in a can no less. I get fresh 4 packs all day where I’m at.

I envy you for your distributor,  sir.

Really?  I buy 4 packs at Trader Joe's and they're always great.
Just looked at a 4 pack of Bitburger in my regular, trusted supermarket today, it was packaged just shy of 6 months ago.   One problem I think I've detected with imported beers, is distributors apparently getting one big fresh shipment, warehousing it, and doling it out to their accounts over the course of a year.  This makes no business sense to me, having stock that's not out in trade, unless warehouse space costs you virtually  nothing and offsets some cost associated  with multiple individual shipments.  If warehouse space costs nothing,  it probably isn't climate controlled either.  Which I'd buy, since even  seasonals like Oktoberfest from the distributor(s) in question arrive in pretty bad shape. 
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Re: your favorite commercial Pilsner
« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2019, 09:11:32 PM »
i just picked up some super fresh prima and i think its brewed to style, idk what would make this "out of style" its hoppy, its clean, grainy pilsner malts,  but as we all know when we get imported G pils they are alot of times stale but if you drank the same beer in germany the hops would be alot more assertive and much more pronounced flavors anyway drunkn ramble, prima seems to fit the style in my mind
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Re: your favorite commercial Pilsner
« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2019, 01:00:29 PM »
Of course this is the moment when my brain goes "Damn.. I had a really good Bo Pils recently, but what was it?"

I'll second the pFriem as a really good one, albeit very local to PacNW.

I've had Pilsner Urquell a couple of times and it can be hit or miss. As mentioned, based on freshness.  Urquell also has a very distinct "off flavor" (one of the ones that is OK is certain styles but bad in others) that I am blanking on right now.. light diaceytl or maybe light DMS? It's often used in tasting classes as an example of that off flavor.  Even when it's "allowed" in certain styles it's hard to turn that away from being "bad" in your brain.
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Re: your favorite commercial Pilsner
« Reply #20 on: February 21, 2019, 01:18:26 PM »
^^^^
Urquell can indeed present light diacetyl.   Back before they "modernized" around 1990, the old beer had a quite prominent diacetyl note.  Lots of HSO in open grants and surface coolers and a cold fermentation with an S. cerevisiae strain will get you that!  (I suspect it is now more effectively reduced in the conicals.)  It probably should make us rethink what qualities and processes are "appropriate" to a true to style lager.  You can't get much more lagery than Urquell, and it's just not as Urquelly as it was.
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Re: your favorite commercial Pilsner
« Reply #21 on: February 21, 2019, 05:55:33 PM »
Of course this is the moment when my brain goes "Damn.. I had a really good Bo Pils recently, but what was it?"

I'll second the pFriem as a really good one, albeit very local to PacNW.

I've had Pilsner Urquell a couple of times and it can be hit or miss. As mentioned, based on freshness.  Urquell also has a very distinct "off flavor" (one of the ones that is OK is certain styles but bad in others) that I am blanking on right now.. light diaceytl or maybe light DMS? It's often used in tasting classes as an example of that off flavor.  Even when it's "allowed" in certain styles it's hard to turn that away from being "bad" in your brain.

My equivalent is the clove phenolic. OK in some styles, but yuck. My palate.
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Re: your favorite commercial Pilsner
« Reply #22 on: February 22, 2019, 12:57:24 PM »
Of course this is the moment when my brain goes "Damn.. I had a really good Bo Pils recently, but what was it?"

I'll second the pFriem as a really good one, albeit very local to PacNW.

I've had Pilsner Urquell a couple of times and it can be hit or miss. As mentioned, based on freshness.  Urquell also has a very distinct "off flavor" (one of the ones that is OK is certain styles but bad in others) that I am blanking on right now.. light diaceytl or maybe light DMS? It's often used in tasting classes as an example of that off flavor.  Even when it's "allowed" in certain styles it's hard to turn that away from being "bad" in your brain.

My equivalent is the clove phenolic. OK in some styles, but yuck. My palate.

I really love that clove phenol. Wienstephaner Hefe is a massive clove bomb and I really like it. I also really love the bubblegum/banana ester in Belgian beers (often presented with clove also) but if you get those flavors in anything other than a Belgian style or a German Wheat (Hefe mostly) then something went terribly wrong (wild yeast most likely or pitched wrong strain).  Those flavors in an IPA would clash horribly and in something light like a Kolsch or Pils would likely be overpowering.
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Re: your favorite commercial Pilsner
« Reply #23 on: February 22, 2019, 01:09:24 PM »
Of course this is the moment when my brain goes "Damn.. I had a really good Bo Pils recently, but what was it?"

I'll second the pFriem as a really good one, albeit very local to PacNW.

I've had Pilsner Urquell a couple of times and it can be hit or miss. As mentioned, based on freshness.  Urquell also has a very distinct "off flavor" (one of the ones that is OK is certain styles but bad in others) that I am blanking on right now.. light diaceytl or maybe light DMS? It's often used in tasting classes as an example of that off flavor.  Even when it's "allowed" in certain styles it's hard to turn that away from being "bad" in your brain.

My equivalent is the clove phenolic. OK in some styles, but yuck. My palate.

I really love that clove phenol. Wienstephaner Hefe is a massive clove bomb and I really like it. I also really love the bubblegum/banana ester in Belgian beers (often presented with clove also) but if you get those flavors in anything other than a Belgian style or a German Wheat (Hefe mostly) then something went terribly wrong (wild yeast most likely or pitched wrong strain).  Those flavors in an IPA would clash horribly and in something light like a Kolsch or Pils would likely be overpowering.
I recall, a number of years ago, being able to get the pale 12° lager from the Žateč (Saaz) brewery.  (I presume this is an example of type Saaz lager yeast?)   Very distinct banana ester.  Again, we may try too hard to pigeonhole styles.
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Re: your favorite commercial Pilsner
« Reply #24 on: February 22, 2019, 01:51:00 PM »
Of course this is the moment when my brain goes "Damn.. I had a really good Bo Pils recently, but what was it?"

I'll second the pFriem as a really good one, albeit very local to PacNW.

I've had Pilsner Urquell a couple of times and it can be hit or miss. As mentioned, based on freshness.  Urquell also has a very distinct "off flavor" (one of the ones that is OK is certain styles but bad in others) that I am blanking on right now.. light diaceytl or maybe light DMS? It's often used in tasting classes as an example of that off flavor.  Even when it's "allowed" in certain styles it's hard to turn that away from being "bad" in your brain.

My equivalent is the clove phenolic. OK in some styles, but yuck. My palate.

I really love that clove phenol. Wienstephaner Hefe is a massive clove bomb and I really like it. I also really love the bubblegum/banana ester in Belgian beers (often presented with clove also) but if you get those flavors in anything other than a Belgian style or a German Wheat (Hefe mostly) then something went terribly wrong (wild yeast most likely or pitched wrong strain).  Those flavors in an IPA would clash horribly and in something light like a Kolsch or Pils would likely be overpowering.

I don't mind a little diacetyl in some styles. Others hate it.

If you want clove in a Kölsch, try Pfaffen in Köln.
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Re: your favorite commercial Pilsner
« Reply #25 on: February 23, 2019, 05:32:45 AM »
I don't mind a little diacetylmorphine in some styles. Others hate it.
If you want clove in a Place, try Pfaffen in Kiln.

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Re: your favorite commercial Pilsner
« Reply #26 on: February 23, 2019, 03:09:44 PM »
I don't mind a little diacetylmorphine in some styles. Others hate it.
If you want clove in a Place, try Pfaffen in Kiln.

Now who wouldn't like a little heroin in their beer?

My new phone didn't know diacetyl, but knew the other compound.  Damn, fixed that, and the others.
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Re: your favorite commercial Pilsner
« Reply #27 on: February 23, 2019, 04:40:19 PM »
Prost here in Denver makes a good pils. A lot of people rave about Bierstadt's as well but I'm not as much of a fan. Weldwerks also puts out a surprisingly good pils despite being known for their pastry stouts and hazy IPAs.
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Re: your favorite commercial Pilsner
« Reply #28 on: February 23, 2019, 05:18:59 PM »
Fresh Pilsner Urquell. Fresh Bitt is a close second, with Yuengling Golden Pils at Third.
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Re: your favorite commercial Pilsner
« Reply #29 on: February 25, 2019, 10:23:46 PM »
Fresh Pilsner Urquell is the finest beer on the planet.