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Re: Pics of recent brews?
« Reply #4305 on: April 15, 2021, 10:42:48 PM »
So, I looked at the bottle and there was no mention of 2 doses. I didn't read that on their website either so I say one dose is suffice. The process I employ is adding biofine to the keg, transferring the beer, agitate by shaking and rolling which may be overkill since I add prior to transfer, blast of 30 psi gas to set the lid and in the 35* keezer for a couple weeks. It works well for me if I'm inpatient.

Which fining agent do you use?
Is the beer COLD when you transfer from fermenter to keg?  I have used gel solution for a long time.  I generally get clear beer but sometimes I get clearish beer and sometimes I get cloudyish beer and I wonder why that is.  It may be something else and *NOT* my fining agent.  Cheers and thanks for the info.  I know some other brewers who swear by Biofine so I should probably pick some up and take it for a test drive.
I have used bio fine clear for several batches and it works well and is much easier to use than gelatin. As Hopden said just put it in keg before transfer and your done.
My only issue is that my beer is usually at basement temp when I transfer it from fermenter to keg and I can't fit my fermenter in my "on-deck" fridge.  I could transfer to keg, chill and THEN add it but I could see it not being as mixed in that way.  Thanks for the information.  I have been threatening to use Biofine for awhile.
What I typically do is add the biofine to the keg, transfer beer that is at fermentation temp into keg, then stick it in my kegerator. It clears up nicely after a couple weeks. I use a tablespoon per 5 gallons, but 1-2 tablespoons is typically recommended for 5 gallons. If you're not putting your kegs into cold storage right away, not sure what the solution to that would be.
This is what I do. Ken, is there something in the directions or something that suggests the beer need to be cold when biofine is clear? I haven’t seen that, nor have I don that and it works great.
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« Reply #4306 on: April 15, 2021, 11:38:21 PM »
So, I looked at the bottle and there was no mention of 2 doses. I didn't read that on their website either so I say one dose is suffice. The process I employ is adding biofine to the keg, transferring the beer, agitate by shaking and rolling which may be overkill since I add prior to transfer, blast of 30 psi gas to set the lid and in the 35* keezer for a couple weeks. It works well for me if I'm inpatient.

Which fining agent do you use?
Is the beer COLD when you transfer from fermenter to keg?  I have used gel solution for a long time.  I generally get clear beer but sometimes I get clearish beer and sometimes I get cloudyish beer and I wonder why that is.  It may be something else and *NOT* my fining agent.  Cheers and thanks for the info.  I know some other brewers who swear by Biofine so I should probably pick some up and take it for a test drive.
I have used bio fine clear for several batches and it works well and is much easier to use than gelatin. As Hopden said just put it in keg before transfer and your done.
My only issue is that my beer is usually at basement temp when I transfer it from fermenter to keg and I can't fit my fermenter in my "on-deck" fridge.  I could transfer to keg, chill and THEN add it but I could see it not being as mixed in that way.  Thanks for the information.  I have been threatening to use Biofine for awhile.
What I typically do is add the biofine to the keg, transfer beer that is at fermentation temp into keg, then stick it in my kegerator. It clears up nicely after a couple weeks. I use a tablespoon per 5 gallons, but 1-2 tablespoons is typically recommended for 5 gallons. If you're not putting your kegs into cold storage right away, not sure what the solution to that would be.
This is what I do. Ken, is there something in the directions or something that suggests the beer need to be cold when biofine is clear? I haven’t seen that, nor have I don that and it works great.
Adding Biofine at ferment temp is a nice feature. I think gelatin needs to go into cold beer.

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Re: Pics of recent brews?
« Reply #4307 on: April 17, 2021, 03:03:17 AM »


EKG dry hopped lager
So how is it? I remember liking the idea of this beer. How does the EKG pla6 in the lager.

honestly i am underwhelmed. the vienna lager i made using all EKG hops is great because the stronger malt flavour works really well with the lager yeast for a more "what you would expect" taste.

this heavily EKG dosed lager was a speed-brew concept i had, where it was 100% dry malt extract brought to boil, boiled for 20 mins with very large doses of hops at 20/10 and flameout to achieve good IBUs for a brew time of only an hour.

it is very drinkable, but also very indistinct and bland. being DME it did not suffer from weird corny/vegetal DMS notes due to such a short boil. so if someone wants to make a crowd-pleaser plain lager beer really fast go for this quick method.

the EKG just tastes out of place and with not sufficiently stiff bitterness to reach the german pils levels i wanted. herbal, softly flowery, tea, honey with a soft bitterness for what should be ~35 IBU are what come to mind from the hops in this. i wouldn't use EKG in a pale beer or lager or on its own again.
I know why fred is a good brewer... honesty! If every beer is great you’re either a person with low standards, poor taste, or lying to yourself.

I really enjoy ekg in 5 gallon batches at 2-4 oz totaling nice estery British style ales. Interesting how they can read so different in different brewing settings.


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Re: Pics of recent brews?
« Reply #4308 on: April 17, 2021, 06:53:54 PM »

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Re: Pics of recent brews?
« Reply #4309 on: April 17, 2021, 08:26:47 PM »

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Re: Pics of recent brews?
« Reply #4310 on: April 17, 2021, 11:17:34 PM »
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Re: Pics of recent brews?
« Reply #4311 on: April 18, 2021, 01:14:15 AM »

I know why fred is a good brewer... honesty! If every beer is great you’re either a person with low standards, poor taste, or lying to yourself.

I really enjoy ekg in 5 gallon batches at 2-4 oz totaling nice estery British style ales. Interesting how they can read so different in different brewing settings.


thanks, i try to say the truth of outcomes, even if it doesnt make me sound like a master brewer. i always want accurate posts from others, so try to do it myself. :)

Yup, I do like EKG, but when it plays a part in the background or on more malt-focused beers.

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Re: Pics of recent brews?
« Reply #4312 on: April 18, 2021, 02:06:39 AM »
So, I looked at the bottle and there was no mention of 2 doses. I didn't read that on their website either so I say one dose is suffice. The process I employ is adding biofine to the keg, transferring the beer, agitate by shaking and rolling which may be overkill since I add prior to transfer, blast of 30 psi gas to set the lid and in the 35* keezer for a couple weeks. It works well for me if I'm inpatient.

Which fining agent do you use?
Is the beer COLD when you transfer from fermenter to keg?  I have used gel solution for a long time.  I generally get clear beer but sometimes I get clearish beer and sometimes I get cloudyish beer and I wonder why that is.  It may be something else and *NOT* my fining agent.  Cheers and thanks for the info.  I know some other brewers who swear by Biofine so I should probably pick some up and take it for a test drive.
I have used bio fine clear for several batches and it works well and is much easier to use than gelatin. As Hopden said just put it in keg before transfer and your done.
My only issue is that my beer is usually at basement temp when I transfer it from fermenter to keg and I can't fit my fermenter in my "on-deck" fridge.  I could transfer to keg, chill and THEN add it but I could see it not being as mixed in that way.  Thanks for the information.  I have been threatening to use Biofine for awhile.
What I typically do is add the biofine to the keg, transfer beer that is at fermentation temp into keg, then stick it in my kegerator. It clears up nicely after a couple weeks. I use a tablespoon per 5 gallons, but 1-2 tablespoons is typically recommended for 5 gallons. If you're not putting your kegs into cold storage right away, not sure what the solution to that would be.
This is what I do. Ken, is there something in the directions or something that suggests the beer need to be cold when biofine is clear? I haven’t seen that, nor have I don that and it works great.
The directions are minimal.  Use between 200-2000ppm, keep the product between 41° and 68°.  It says there is more on their website so I checked that out and found this:

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Kerry Biofine® Clear is a purified colloidal solution of silicic acid, (SiO2), in water that has been specifically formulated for the rapid sedimentation of yeast and other haze forming particles in beer. It is Vegan friendly.

Additional Notes

Kerry Biofine® Clear is extremely rapid acting and optimally added on transfer to the aging tank for optimal dispersion in the beer. Direct addition can be to the aging tank, however, emphasis must be placed on good dispersion, i.e. multiple addition points and a good CO2 purge to minimize stratification.

Application rates should be determined by brewery scale trials.

Typical Dosage Rate: 200-2000 ppm

So it seems like the key is good dispersion... letting the product mix well with the beer.  I transferred a beer to the keg on Thursday and used Biofine for the first time.  I am using tubing connected to the port of the fermenter and letting the beer run into the OUT port of the keg.  So I grabbed 30ml (another brewer gave me that amount) and injected it into the tubing (and keg) using a sanitized plastic syringe.  Then I transferred the beer on top of it so it would mix well.  I'm interested to see how it will come out.  The beer was at "basement temp".  Also, my bottle of Biofine also shows a BEST BY date of 04/22/2021.  I hope this stuff doesn't expire. 
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Re: Pics of recent brews?
« Reply #4313 on: April 18, 2021, 02:31:15 AM »
So, I looked at the bottle and there was no mention of 2 doses. I didn't read that on their website either so I say one dose is suffice. The process I employ is adding biofine to the keg, transferring the beer, agitate by shaking and rolling which may be overkill since I add prior to transfer, blast of 30 psi gas to set the lid and in the 35* keezer for a couple weeks. It works well for me if I'm inpatient.

Which fining agent do you use?
Is the beer COLD when you transfer from fermenter to keg?  I have used gel solution for a long time.  I generally get clear beer but sometimes I get clearish beer and sometimes I get cloudyish beer and I wonder why that is.  It may be something else and *NOT* my fining agent.  Cheers and thanks for the info.  I know some other brewers who swear by Biofine so I should probably pick some up and take it for a test drive.
I have used bio fine clear for several batches and it works well and is much easier to use than gelatin. As Hopden said just put it in keg before transfer and your done.
My only issue is that my beer is usually at basement temp when I transfer it from fermenter to keg and I can't fit my fermenter in my "on-deck" fridge.  I could transfer to keg, chill and THEN add it but I could see it not being as mixed in that way.  Thanks for the information.  I have been threatening to use Biofine for awhile.
What I typically do is add the biofine to the keg, transfer beer that is at fermentation temp into keg, then stick it in my kegerator. It clears up nicely after a couple weeks. I use a tablespoon per 5 gallons, but 1-2 tablespoons is typically recommended for 5 gallons. If you're not putting your kegs into cold storage right away, not sure what the solution to that would be.
This is what I do. Ken, is there something in the directions or something that suggests the beer need to be cold when biofine is clear? I haven’t seen that, nor have I don that and it works great.
The directions are minimal.  Use between 200-2000ppm, keep the product between 41° and 68°.  It says there is more on their website so I checked that out and found this:

Quote
Kerry Biofine Clear is a purified colloidal solution of silicic acid, (SiO2), in water that has been specifically formulated for the rapid sedimentation of yeast and other haze forming particles in beer. It is Vegan friendly.

Additional Notes

Kerry Biofine Clear is extremely rapid acting and optimally added on transfer to the aging tank for optimal dispersion in the beer. Direct addition can be to the aging tank, however, emphasis must be placed on good dispersion, i.e. multiple addition points and a good CO2 purge to minimize stratification.

Application rates should be determined by brewery scale trials.

Typical Dosage Rate: 200-2000 ppm

So it seems like the key is good dispersion... letting the product mix well with the beer.  I transferred a beer to the keg on Thursday and used Biofine for the first time.  I am using tubing connected to the port of the fermenter and letting the beer run into the OUT port of the keg.  So I grabbed 30ml (another brewer gave me that amount) and injected it into the tubing (and keg) using a sanitized plastic syringe.  Then I transferred the beer on top of it so it would mix well.  I'm interested to see how it will come out.  The beer was at "basement temp".  Also, my bottle of Biofine also shows a BEST BY date of 04/22/2021.  I hope this stuff doesn't expire.
30 ml is 1585 ppm assuming a 5 gallon batch.

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Re: Pics of recent brews?
« Reply #4314 on: April 18, 2021, 10:27:12 AM »
So, I looked at the bottle and there was no mention of 2 doses. I didn't read that on their website either so I say one dose is suffice. The process I employ is adding biofine to the keg, transferring the beer, agitate by shaking and rolling which may be overkill since I add prior to transfer, blast of 30 psi gas to set the lid and in the 35* keezer for a couple weeks. It works well for me if I'm inpatient.

Which fining agent do you use?
Is the beer COLD when you transfer from fermenter to keg?  I have used gel solution for a long time.  I generally get clear beer but sometimes I get clearish beer and sometimes I get cloudyish beer and I wonder why that is.  It may be something else and *NOT* my fining agent.  Cheers and thanks for the info.  I know some other brewers who swear by Biofine so I should probably pick some up and take it for a test drive.
I have used bio fine clear for several batches and it works well and is much easier to use than gelatin. As Hopden said just put it in keg before transfer and your done.
My only issue is that my beer is usually at basement temp when I transfer it from fermenter to keg and I can't fit my fermenter in my "on-deck" fridge.  I could transfer to keg, chill and THEN add it but I could see it not being as mixed in that way.  Thanks for the information.  I have been threatening to use Biofine for awhile.
What I typically do is add the biofine to the keg, transfer beer that is at fermentation temp into keg, then stick it in my kegerator. It clears up nicely after a couple weeks. I use a tablespoon per 5 gallons, but 1-2 tablespoons is typically recommended for 5 gallons. If you're not putting your kegs into cold storage right away, not sure what the solution to that would be.
This is what I do. Ken, is there something in the directions or something that suggests the beer need to be cold when biofine is clear? I haven’t seen that, nor have I don that and it works great.
The directions are minimal.  Use between 200-2000ppm, keep the product between 41° and 68°.  It says there is more on their website so I checked that out and found this:

Quote
Kerry Biofine Clear is a purified colloidal solution of silicic acid, (SiO2), in water that has been specifically formulated for the rapid sedimentation of yeast and other haze forming particles in beer. It is Vegan friendly.

Additional Notes

Kerry Biofine Clear is extremely rapid acting and optimally added on transfer to the aging tank for optimal dispersion in the beer. Direct addition can be to the aging tank, however, emphasis must be placed on good dispersion, i.e. multiple addition points and a good CO2 purge to minimize stratification.

Application rates should be determined by brewery scale trials.

Typical Dosage Rate: 200-2000 ppm

So it seems like the key is good dispersion... letting the product mix well with the beer.  I transferred a beer to the keg on Thursday and used Biofine for the first time.  I am using tubing connected to the port of the fermenter and letting the beer run into the OUT port of the keg.  So I grabbed 30ml (another brewer gave me that amount) and injected it into the tubing (and keg) using a sanitized plastic syringe.  Then I transferred the beer on top of it so it would mix well.  I'm interested to see how it will come out.  The beer was at "basement temp".  Also, my bottle of Biofine also shows a BEST BY date of 04/22/2021.  I hope this stuff doesn't expire.
30 ml is 1585 ppm assuming a 5 gallon batch.

Could you show me the equation on how you determined the ppm? Math is not one of my strongest attributes.

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« Reply #4315 on: April 18, 2021, 12:29:20 PM »
Concentration in PPM= Volume of solution divided by total volume multiplied by a million (aka 10 to the 6th power so just move the decimal to the right 6 places).
 
5 gal = ~18927 ml and to that he added 30 ml clarifier.

So, (30/18927) = .00158504 * 1,000,000 = 1585 ppm



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Re: Pics of recent brews?
« Reply #4316 on: April 18, 2021, 01:08:53 PM »
Concentration in PPM= Volume of solution divided by total volume multiplied by a million (aka 10 to the 6th power so just move the decimal to the right 6 places).
 
5 gal = ~18927 ml and to that he added 30 ml clarifier.

So, (30/18927) = .00158504 * 1,000,000 = 1585 ppm


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Thank you!! That will definitely help!

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Re: Pics of recent brews?
« Reply #4317 on: April 18, 2021, 01:44:11 PM »
Concentration in PPM= Volume of solution divided by total volume multiplied by a million (aka 10 to the 6th power so just move the decimal to the right 6 places).
 
5 gal = ~18927 ml and to that he added 30 ml clarifier.

So, (30/18927) = .00158504 * 1,000,000 = 1585 ppm


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Thank you!! That will definitely help!
That’s what I did exactly. Thanks.

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Re: Pics of recent brews?
« Reply #4318 on: April 18, 2021, 01:54:35 PM »
So, I looked at the bottle and there was no mention of 2 doses. I didn't read that on their website either so I say one dose is suffice. The process I employ is adding biofine to the keg, transferring the beer, agitate by shaking and rolling which may be overkill since I add prior to transfer, blast of 30 psi gas to set the lid and in the 35* keezer for a couple weeks. It works well for me if I'm inpatient.

Which fining agent do you use?
Is the beer COLD when you transfer from fermenter to keg?  I have used gel solution for a long time.  I generally get clear beer but sometimes I get clearish beer and sometimes I get cloudyish beer and I wonder why that is.  It may be something else and *NOT* my fining agent.  Cheers and thanks for the info.  I know some other brewers who swear by Biofine so I should probably pick some up and take it for a test drive.
I have used bio fine clear for several batches and it works well and is much easier to use than gelatin. As Hopden said just put it in keg before transfer and your done.
My only issue is that my beer is usually at basement temp when I transfer it from fermenter to keg and I can't fit my fermenter in my "on-deck" fridge.  I could transfer to keg, chill and THEN add it but I could see it not being as mixed in that way.  Thanks for the information.  I have been threatening to use Biofine for awhile.
What I typically do is add the biofine to the keg, transfer beer that is at fermentation temp into keg, then stick it in my kegerator. It clears up nicely after a couple weeks. I use a tablespoon per 5 gallons, but 1-2 tablespoons is typically recommended for 5 gallons. If you're not putting your kegs into cold storage right away, not sure what the solution to that would be.
This is what I do. Ken, is there something in the directions or something that suggests the beer need to be cold when biofine is clear? I haven’t seen that, nor have I don that and it works great.
The directions are minimal.  Use between 200-2000ppm, keep the product between 41° and 68°.  It says there is more on their website so I checked that out and found this:

Quote
Kerry Biofine Clear is a purified colloidal solution of silicic acid, (SiO2), in water that has been specifically formulated for the rapid sedimentation of yeast and other haze forming particles in beer. It is Vegan friendly.

Additional Notes

Kerry Biofine Clear is extremely rapid acting and optimally added on transfer to the aging tank for optimal dispersion in the beer. Direct addition can be to the aging tank, however, emphasis must be placed on good dispersion, i.e. multiple addition points and a good CO2 purge to minimize stratification.

Application rates should be determined by brewery scale trials.

Typical Dosage Rate: 200-2000 ppm

So it seems like the key is good dispersion... letting the product mix well with the beer.  I transferred a beer to the keg on Thursday and used Biofine for the first time.  I am using tubing connected to the port of the fermenter and letting the beer run into the OUT port of the keg.  So I grabbed 30ml (another brewer gave me that amount) and injected it into the tubing (and keg) using a sanitized plastic syringe.  Then I transferred the beer on top of it so it would mix well.  I'm interested to see how it will come out.  The beer was at "basement temp".  Also, my bottle of Biofine also shows a BEST BY date of 04/22/2021.  I hope this stuff doesn't expire.
I also put it in the line from fermenter to out post on keg when I did a closed transfer in a Maibock last week. That is currently lagering. The picture below is not very well lit but the pilsner in the pic is quite ear now. That was with biofine added into a purged keg before transfer.

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Re: Pics of recent brews?
« Reply #4319 on: April 18, 2021, 05:54:12 PM »

I also put it in the line from fermenter to out post on keg when I did a closed transfer in a Maibock last week. That is currently lagering. The picture below is not very well lit but the pilsner in the pic is quite ear now. That was with biofine added into a purged keg before transfer.

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k, not going to lie, high strength pale maibocks masquerading visually as a basic lager is one of my fetishes.