These were both brewed from the same 10 gallon batch. Used Drews method of making two different beers with the same base. Made the base a pilsner. Split in half. Then added crystal 80, coriander, muscat grape concentrate, lemon, orange and lime zest to half of the batch. Pilsner fermented with WLP830 at 48F. Saison fermented with T-58 at 58F. Both turned out great!