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Offline MerlinBrewer

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Looking for automated brewery
« on: April 01, 2019, 02:42:09 pm »
Hello Everyone,
I brew a beer during couple of years and now almost ready to give up.
I'm looking for most automated and most all-in-one apparatus for all grain homebrewing. Ideally - put grain, push button, get beer.
It seems to me the Brewie is most advanced system. But this is actually only wort-maker.
Can somebody recommend something else?



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Re: Looking for automated brewery
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2019, 01:21:42 pm »
zymatic picobrew
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Re: Looking for automated brewery
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2019, 03:53:07 pm »
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Actually, the Z has replaced the Zymatic.  Just got mine and brewing on it this week.
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Re: Looking for automated brewery
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2019, 10:06:04 pm »
zymatic picobrew

Actually, the Z has replaced the Zymatic.  Just got mine and brewing on it this week.

Awesome Denny hope you have fun with it \m/, there you go OP get the Z
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Re: Looking for automated brewery
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2019, 11:57:49 am »
From my observation Zymatic (Z) is also only wort maker.
Someone has posted suggestion here, but now I cannot find it here. May be in another thread? Weird...
Anyway, what do you think about PBS-1101? Fareo Inc makes it.

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Re: Looking for automated brewery
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2019, 12:02:59 pm »
From my observation Zymatic (Z) is also only wort maker.
Someone has posted suggestion here, but now I cannot find it here. May be in another thread? Weird...
Anyway, what do you think about PBS-1101? Fareo Inc makes it.
yeah it makes wort, boils it, hops it and all you have to do is add yeast and ferment it, i dont think there is any system that makes "beer" they all make wort, the yeast and fermentation makes the beer
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Re: Looking for automated brewery
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2019, 12:37:18 pm »
From my observation Zymatic (Z) is also only wort maker.
Someone has posted suggestion here, but now I cannot find it here. May be in another thread? Weird...
Anyway, what do you think about PBS-1101? Fareo Inc makes it.
yeah it makes wort, boils it, hops it and all you have to do is add yeast and ferment it, i dont think there is any system that makes "beer" they all make wort, the yeast and fermentation makes the beer

Ive seen ads for units that go from wort to beer, including serving.  But none of them actually exist at this point.
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Re: Looking for automated brewery
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2019, 12:46:52 pm »
Just looked at that Fareo unit on their website.   It is far less automated than the Z.  Not really automated at all.  You have to put in the grain bag, manually stir in the grain with a spoon, scoop out the grain after mashing, manually add hops and any additional ingredients during the boil when you want... add the yeast and pop on an airlock after cooling... prime and bottle with a hose at the end of fermentation... in other words, it's a very expensive, giant thing that needs to be permanently connected to your plumbing and electrical systems, and does exactly what a cheap pot and a plastic bucket will do.  (Make really oxidized beer.) And they're apparently still looking for sufficient interest to put it into production.   I haven't the foggiest idea what the appeal of an automated system is, but this really has me scratching my head.  If you really have money just burning a hole in your pocket,  please send me some.
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Re: Looking for automated brewery
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2019, 12:51:36 pm »
So Denny, what would you recommend for merlin? i think the Z probably the best option for his needs, i dont have much knowledge on all in one brew systems except for the mash and boil and the grainfather, but seeing he wants a beer machine rather then a brewing system i have no clue
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Re: Looking for automated brewery
« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2019, 12:56:29 pm »
Just looked at that Fareo unit on their website.   It is far less automated than the Z.  Not really automated at all.  You have to put in the grain bag, manually stir in the grain with a spoon, scoop out the grain after mashing, manually add hops and any additional ingredients during the boil when you want... add the yeast and pop on an airlock after cooling... prime and bottle with a hose at the end of fermentation... in other words, it's a very expensive, giant thing that needs to be permanently connected to your plumbing and electrical systems, and does exactly what a cheap pot and a plastic bucket will do.  (Make really oxidized beer.) And they're apparently still looking for sufficient interest to put it into production.   I haven't the foggiest idea what the appeal of an automated system is, but this really has me scratching my head.  If you really have money just burning a hole in your pocket,  please send me some.
Yes, I see it. But, look at the specs. The fermentation range starts from 46F. I can make ferment lagers, easily. Plus cold crash mode.
Could you please explain, why the beer will be oxidized?

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Re: Looking for automated brewery
« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2019, 01:02:36 pm »
Just looked at that Fareo unit on their website.   It is far less automated than the Z.  Not really automated at all.  You have to put in the grain bag, manually stir in the grain with a spoon, scoop out the grain after mashing, manually add hops and any additional ingredients during the boil when you want... add the yeast and pop on an airlock after cooling... prime and bottle with a hose at the end of fermentation... in other words, it's a very expensive, giant thing that needs to be permanently connected to your plumbing and electrical systems, and does exactly what a cheap pot and a plastic bucket will do.  (Make really oxidized beer.) And they're apparently still looking for sufficient interest to put it into production.   I haven't the foggiest idea what the appeal of an automated system is, but this really has me scratching my head.  If you really have money just burning a hole in your pocket,  please send me some.
Yes, I see it. But, look at the specs. The fermentation range starts from 46F. I can make ferment lagers, easily. Plus cold crash mode.
Could you please explain, why the beer will be oxidized?
Oxidation because there is apparently no way to separate trub before fermentation,  and because you will be bottling just as you would with a bucket.  Some day there will probably be a system that ferments, carbonates, and packages all in a closed system.   If it separated trub, you could have very fresh beer.

Yes it is temperature controlled.  But you then have to wait for a batch to be bottled before brewing the next, since it's all in one piece of equipment.   For a lot less money, you could get a system (automated or not) to produce your wort, and also multiple,  temperature controlled fermenters, or a temperature controlled fermentation chamber.
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Re: Looking for automated brewery
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2019, 01:10:47 pm »
Just looked at that Fareo unit on their website.

Me too.  I honestly can't tell if this is a joke or not.

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Re: Looking for automated brewery
« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2019, 01:13:57 pm »
Look into a unitank with BIAB?  I think you can mash, boil, chill, ferment, dump yeast, carb, bright tank and serve all in one vessel....you still have brewing and cleaning..., but I could be wrong, as I haven’t looked that closely at those things.
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Re: Looking for automated brewery
« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2019, 01:15:28 pm »
Well, the website didn't go up on April 1st.   I think its serious, just ill-conceived.
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Re: Looking for automated brewery
« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2019, 01:20:13 pm »
Hey Merlin, just curious why are ready to give up?
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