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Offline danicomix

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American blond ale
« on: April 10, 2019, 01:58:28 PM »
Hi, I'm an italian HomeBrewer
I'd like to brew anche American blonde Ale!

This Is my recipe..what do you think about???

4.57 kg (89.8%) — Ireks Pilsner Malt — Grain — 3 EBC
260 g (5.1%) — Cara-Pils/Dextrine — Grain — 3.9 EBC
260 g (5.1%) — Ireks Crystal Mahogany — Grain — 60 EBC

18 g — Ekuanot 13.5% — Boil — 15 min

18 g — Mosaic 12.4% — Boil — 15 min

28 g — Ekuanot 13.5% — Aroma — 15 min hopstand @ 70 °C

28 g — Mosaic 12.4% — Aroma — 15 min hopstand @ 70 °C

34 g — Ekuanot 13.5% — Dry Hop — 3 days

34 g — Mosaic 12.4% — Dry Hop — 3 days

Yeast
1 pkg — Wyeast Labs 1272 American Ale II

Mash 52°C x 10 min / 67 x 60min / 78 x 10 min
OG 1.050
FG 1.011
IBU 30

Thanks Daniele

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Re: American blond ale
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2019, 02:41:28 PM »
Looks very tasty but will be too hoppy for a blonde. Looking like a hoppy pale ale to me though the grains and yeast look good. Have you checked out the bjcp guidelines for this style?
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Re: American blond ale
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2019, 02:48:19 PM »
Welcome to the forum!  Very nice first post.  :)

This does not fit the American Blonde Ale style at all.  Way too hoppy.  I calculate about 54 IBU.  If you want an American Pale Ale, then it's good.  But if you really want a Blonde Ale, then do not use any dry hops or hop stand, then it will turn out fine.  So, you need to make a decision which style you really want.
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Re: American blond ale
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2019, 02:56:03 PM »
Hi....thanks for reply!
I can not find American 2-row so i've read that combo pils 90% / Crystal light 5% / carapils 5% Is near American 2-row

About hops the are 30 ibu with rbr=0,6
what do you think? I've read bjcp...i've used 1,5gr./lt in flavour, 2,5gr/LT. In aroma e 3gr./LT in dry hopping!
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Re: American blond ale
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2019, 03:00:16 PM »
Personally, I would bitter to 20-25 IBUs @ 60 minutes and throw in 1 oz of late/whirlpool hops if you really want to.

The grain is not the problem whatsoever. I have a blonde ale on right now that is 20 IBUs from bittering hops with no other additions. It gets some fruity esters from my yeast choice though that gives the impression of later hop additions.

If you like the recipe you have, just call it a pale ale.
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Re: American blond ale
« Reply #5 on: April 10, 2019, 07:43:57 PM »
I've modified the recipe, what do you think? It's seems like an American blonde ale?

Thanks
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Original Gravity: 1.050

Final Gravity: 1.011

IBU (Tinseth): 30

Color: 9.1 EBC


Mash
Temperature — 52 °C — 10 min

Temperature — 67 °C — 60 min

Temperature — 78 °C — 10 min


Malts (5.09 kg)
4.57 kg (89.8%) — Ireks Pilsner Malt — Grain — 3 EBC
260 g (5.1%) — Cara-Pils/Dextrine — Grain — 3.9 EBC
260 g (5.1%) — Ireks Crystal Mahogany — Grain — 60 EBC
Hops (50 g)
4 g — Ekuanot 13.5% — Boil — 60 min

4 g — Mosaic 12.4% — Boil — 60 min

9 g — Ekuanot 13.5% — Boil — 15 min

9 g — Mosaic 12.4% — Boil — 15 min

12 g — Ekuanot 13.5% — Boil — 5 min

12 g — Mosaic 12.4% — Boil — 5 min


Yeast
1 pkg — Wyeast Labs 1272 American Ale II

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Re: American blond ale
« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2019, 08:01:33 PM »
Looks pretty good to me! I would still drop the IBUs a bit. The overall impression is supposed to be "malt oriented, well-balanced, and clean". Again just my opinion. Looks tasty regardless of what this fool says...
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Re: American blond ale
« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2019, 08:55:36 PM »
I have not understand what did you means with "Looks tasty regardless of what this fool says..." Sorry for my basta english!

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Re: American blond ale
« Reply #8 on: April 10, 2019, 08:58:23 PM »
Sorry. I was referring to myself as a fool. I meant it will be good no matter what I think.
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Re: American blond ale
« Reply #9 on: April 11, 2019, 12:52:17 AM »
I've modified the recipe, what do you think? It's seems like an American blonde ale?

Still too hoppy for an American Blonde Ale, but getting closer.  Don't add any hops at 5 minutes remaining in the boil, then it will be right.
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Re: American blond ale
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2019, 10:45:28 AM »
Ok...i think so It should be ok!



Original Gravity: 1.050

Final Gravity: 1.011

IBU (Tinseth): 26

Bu/Gu 0,52
RBR: 0,52

Color: 9.1 EBC


Mash
Temperature — 52 °C — 10 min

Temperature — 67 °C — 60 min

Temperature — 78 °C — 10 min


Malts (5.09 kg)
4.57 kg (89.8%) — Ireks Pilsner Malt — Grain — 3 EBC
260 g (5.1%) — Cara-Pils/Dextrine — Grain — 3.9 EBC
260 g (5.1%) — Ireks Crystal Mahogany — Grain — 60 EBC
Hops (50 g)
4 g — Ekuanot 13.5% — Boil — 60 min

4 g — Mosaic 12.4% — Boil — 60 min

11g — Ekuanot 13.5% — Boil — 15 min

11g — Mosaic 12.4% — Boil — 15 min

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Re: American blond ale
« Reply #11 on: April 12, 2019, 12:23:46 PM »
Ok...i think so It should be ok!



Original Gravity: 1.050

Final Gravity: 1.011

IBU (Tinseth): 26

Bu/Gu 0,52
RBR: 0,52

Color: 9.1 EBC


Mash
Temperature — 52 °C — 10 min

Temperature — 67 °C — 60 min

Temperature — 78 °C — 10 min


Malts (5.09 kg)
4.57 kg (89.8%) — Ireks Pilsner Malt — Grain — 3 EBC
260 g (5.1%) — Cara-Pils/Dextrine — Grain — 3.9 EBC
260 g (5.1%) — Ireks Crystal Mahogany — Grain — 60 EBC
Hops (50 g)
4 g — Ekuanot 13.5% — Boil — 60 min

4 g — Mosaic 12.4% — Boil — 60 min

11g — Ekuanot 13.5% — Boil — 15 min

11g — Mosaic 12.4% — Boil — 15 min
This will be a good beer. It is a blonde ale with a bit more hoppy flavor from the 15 minute additions but probably not too much hoppy flavor.

Most brew pub blonde ales in the USA would leave out the 15 minute additions as this style is designed for people who regularly drink macro lagers (Budweiser, Bud Light, Heineken: very low bitterness and little to no hop flavor) who are at the pub and want a beer.  American Blonde Ale is an introductory craft beer.

Most homebrewers like hops. So, our Blonde Ales often look more like yours. In competitions they get dinged as too hoppy. Yours is borderline. I say brew it and enjoy it. It will taste better with the 15 minute additions.

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Re: American blond ale
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2019, 10:39:32 AM »
Hi...I was thinking....what about if I use only equanot instead of equanot and mosaic?
What do you think????

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Re: American blond ale
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2019, 12:00:03 PM »
Hi...I was thinking....what about if I use only equanot instead of equanot and mosaic?
What do you think????

Any beer with zero Mosaic is better than a beer with Mosaic in my opinion.

It will turn out great with just Equanot.

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Re: American blond ale
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2019, 12:17:02 PM »
Hi...I was thinking....what about if I use only equanot instead of equanot and mosaic?
What do you think????
That would still be good. Ekuanot is a nice hop standalone. If dropping one or the other hop, just double the weight of the remaining hop for all additions.

PS. Mosaic provides awesome citrus flavors though.