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English IPA tips
« on: August 19, 2010, 12:58:16 PM »
Giving a first attempt at an English IPA, but I don't have a lot of resources outside of Jamil's book...

What are your opinions on:

 - Good commercial examples, especially ones brewed here (I, for example, LOVE Three Floyds' version)
 - Yeast selection
 - Hop schedule (dry hopping?)
 - OG/FG

I will also gladly accept award-winning recipes if you've got 'em  ;D
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Re: English IPA tips
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2010, 04:37:03 AM »
There are a few examples state-side, but probably best to seek out the true English IPA's , if you can find it "Meantime makes a great EIPA" or Samuel Smith or even Worthington's White Shield.

There are a few good English yeast selections, 1968, 1098, 1099 or my favorite 1275 Thames Valley

I think the secret is a balanced bitterness , high hop aroma from dry-hoping and a slightly dry finish. Don't be afraid of using some non-traditional hops for dry-hopping too. Other than that and IMO..stick with E.K.Goldings or Fuggles for bittering and flavor.

Try making a 3.5 ABV IPA, but you should try to keep your formulations under 6% ABV for the style. Experiment with your water, use good English malt.. Crisp, Thomas Fawcett or Golden Promise.

Oh, and here's my recipe for English IPA:

Brew Type: All Grain Date: 5/16/2007
Style: English IPA Brewer: Christopher Bowen
Batch Size: 5.00 gal Assistant Brewer: 
Boil Volume: 5.72 gal Boil Time: 60 min
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 % Equipment: My Equipment
Actual Efficiency: 70.04 %


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Ingredients Amount Item Type % or IBU
9 lbs 3.0 oz Pale Malt (2 Row) UK (3.0 SRM) Grain 85.09 %
14.1 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 8.15 %
6.4 oz Amber Malt (22.0 SRM) Grain 3.70 %
5.3 oz Wheat, Torrified (1.7 SRM) Grain 3.06 %
1.25 oz Chinook [12.00 %] (Dry Hop 10 days) Hops - 
2.00 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (60 min) Hops 34.3 IBU
0.50 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (30 min) (Aroma Hop-Steep) Hops - 
1.50 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (10 min) (Aroma Hop-Steep) Hops - 
1.00 items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 min) Misc 
1.00 tsp Yeast Nutrient (Primary 3.0 days) Misc 
1 Pkgs Thames Valley Ale (Wyeast Labs #1275) [Starter 125 ml] Yeast-Ale 

Beer Profile Estimated Original Gravity: 1.058 SG (1.050-1.075 SG) Measured Original Gravity: 1.054 SG
Estimated Final Gravity: 1.014 SG (1.010-1.018 SG) Measured Final Gravity: 1.010 SG
Estimated Color: 10.8 SRM (8.0-14.0 SRM) Color [Color]
Bitterness: 34.3 IBU (40.0-60.0 IBU) Alpha Acid Units: 10.0 AAU
Estimated Alcohol by Volume: 5.66 % (5.00-7.50 %) Actual Alcohol by Volume: 5.74 %
Actual Calories: 239 cal/pint


Mash Profile Name: Single Infusion, Full Body Mash 
Mash Grain Weight: 10.80 lb Mash PH: 5.4 PH
Grain Temperature: 72.0 F Sparge Temperature: 168.0 F
Sparge Water: 2.29

Name Description Step Temp Step Time
Mash In Add 3.38 gal of water at 163.7 F 152.0 F 90 min
Mash Out Add 1.35 gal of water and heat to 180.0 F over 2 min 180.0 F 10 min

Carbonation and Storage Carbonation Type: Corn Sugar Carbonation Volumes: 2.0

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Re: English IPA tips
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2010, 06:47:12 AM »
I like to use WLP002.

I also like using all EKG's for flavor, aroma and dry hop.  Moderate to high hop aroma is key to this fine beer.

It should be clear and I shoot for amber in color.  I like a medium bodied mouthfeel with this beer.

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English IPA

 
Type: All Grain
Batch Size: 5.50 gal
Brewer: bluesman
Boil Size: 6.63 gal
Boil Time: 90 min 
 
Ingredients
 
Amount Item Type % or IBU
10.00 lb Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) Grain 81.63 %
.50 lb Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) Grain 4.08 %
.50 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 4.08 %
.50 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 4.08 %
.50 lb Wheat, Torrified (1.7 SRM) Grain 4.08 %
.25 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 80L (80.0 SRM) Grain 2.04 %
1.00 oz Northern Brewer [8.50 %] (90 min) Hops 28.0 IBU
1.00 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (60 min) Hops 15.4 IBU
.5 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (30 min) Hops 5.3 IBU
.5 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] [4.50 %] (20 min) Hops 3.8 IBU
.5 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (10 min) Hops 2.5 IBU
.5 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (0 min) (Aroma Hop-Steep) Hops - 
1.00 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] [5.50 %] (Dry Hop 3 days) Hops - 
1.00 items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 min) Misc 
5.5 gal Poland Spring (R) Water 
1 Pkgs English Ale (White Labs #WLP002) [Starter 2000 ml] Yeast-Ale 


Beer Profile
 
Est Original Gravity: 1.062 SG
Measured Original Gravity: 1.060 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.018 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 5.79 % 
Bitterness: 55.1 IBU
Est Color: 11.0 SRM
 
Mash Profile
 
Mash Name: Single Infusion, Medium Body, Batch Sparge Total Grain Weight: 12.25 lb
Sparge Water: 4.25 gal Grain Temperature: 72.0 F
Sparge Temperature: 168.0 F TunTemperature: 72.0 F

Single Infusion, Medium Body, Batch Sparge
60 min Mash @ 150.0 F

Mash Notes: Simple single infusion mash for use with most modern well modified grains (about 95% of the time).
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Re: English IPA tips
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2010, 06:53:28 AM »
I will also gladly accept award-winning recipes if you've got 'em  ;D
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Re: English IPA tips
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2010, 11:11:59 AM »
http://wiki.homebrewersassociation.org/BlitzkriegHops

To clarify, the correct gravity numbers are 1.068 SG, 1.016 FG, and you want your sulfate level around 500ppm.

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Re: English IPA tips
« Reply #5 on: August 21, 2010, 08:34:42 AM »
Actual Calories: 239 cal/pint

Thanks for the great recipe! What is the brewing software you're using thats giving you the calorie guilt-trip???
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Re: English IPA tips
« Reply #6 on: August 21, 2010, 01:26:42 PM »
- Good commercial examples, especially ones brewed here (I, for example, LOVE Three Floyds' version)

If Philadelphia qualifies as “here,” and if you can get it, I think Yards India Pale Ale is quite good and tastes like what I remember from trips to England.
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Re: English IPA tips
« Reply #7 on: August 21, 2010, 01:29:45 PM »
- Good commercial examples, especially ones brewed here (I, for example, LOVE Three Floyds' version)

If Philadelphia qualifies as “here,” and if you can get it, I think Yards India Pale Ale is quite good and tastes like what I remember from trips to England.

I think here meant US; but if he meant really local then FFF is on the illinois-indiana border; basically a suburb of Chicago.
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Re: English IPA tips
« Reply #8 on: August 21, 2010, 03:47:22 PM »
Yessir... I live in Indy and bow to Nick and the guys at FFF... i LOVE Blackheart (the English IPA), Dark Lord, Bohemoth, Dreadnaught, etc., etc., etc....

http://www.3floyds.com/our-beers-2/

If you can't get their beers where you're at, I think we could arrange a trade of "Yeast Samples" via UPS
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Re: English IPA tips
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2010, 03:53:17 PM »
oh... and I did some "research"... bought St. Peter's IPA and Ridgeway IPA.

The St. Peters was great... so earthy/dank in the nose, my girlfriend swore I tracked dirt into the kitchen on my shoes!

Wonderful, round malt profile. Just bitter enough to satisfy and balance. A bit oxidized from the trip (I would love to taste it at the brewery someday!)... but thats why I'm making one myself!

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Re: English IPA tips
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2010, 10:16:32 AM »
I like that St Peter's. Expensive so it's an occasional treat. I'm trying to emulate the mouth-feel and malt profile of these type of English ales. Some success but I'm still working on it. Let us know if you achieve what you're looking for.
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Re: English IPA tips
« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2010, 01:12:55 PM »
Not sure if you can get it in the US, but Marston's Old Empire is a reasonable EIPA.
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Re: English IPA tips
« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2010, 04:12:13 PM »
Not sure if you can get it in the US, but Marston's Old Empire is a reasonable EIPA.


Stateline in MD has or had it.  I tried a bottle when I was tasting a group of EIPAs to formulate my recipe.  There was a range of maltiness, but all were well hopped.

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English IPA

 
Type: All Grain
 Date: 4/18/2010
Batch Size: 5.30 gal
 Brewer: Jim Rosenkranz
Boil Size: 7.00 gal Asst Brewer: 
Boil Time: 60 min  Equipment: Brew Pot (15 Gal) and Igloo/Gott Cooler (10 Gal) for 5 gallon batch 
Taste Rating(out of 50): 35.0  Brewhouse Efficiency: 73.00
Taste Notes: 
 
Ingredients
 
Amount Item Type % or IBU
11.00 lb Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) Grain 84.62 %
0.50 lb Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) Grain 3.85 %
0.50 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 20L (20.0 SRM) Grain 3.85 %
0.50 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 3.85 %
0.50 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 3.85 %
0.50 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops - 
1.00 oz Fuggles [4.50 %] (60 min) Hops 12.0 IBU
1.00 oz Northern Brewer [8.00 %] (60 min) Hops 23.7 IBU
1.00 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (20 min) Hops 9.0 IBU
1.00 oz Goldings, East Kent [5.00 %] (5 min) Hops 3.0 IBU
1 Pkgs English Ale (White Labs #WLP002) Yeast-Ale 

 
 
Beer Profile
 
Est Original Gravity: 1.067 SG
 Measured Original Gravity: 1.067 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.020 SG Measured Final Gravity: 1.020 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 6.06 %  Actual Alcohol by Vol: 6.14 %
Bitterness: 47.7 IBU Calories: 305 cal/pint
Est Color: 10.7 SRM Color: Color 
 
 
Mash Profile
 
Mash Name: Single Infusion, Medium Body, Batch Sparge Total Grain Weight: 13.00 lb
Sparge Water: 4.49 gal Grain Temperature: 65.0 F
Sparge Temperature: 168.0 F TunTemperature: 65.0 F
Adjust Temp for Equipment: FALSE Mash PH: 5.4 PH
 
Single Infusion, Medium Body, Batch Sparge Step Time Name Description Step Temp
60 min Mash In Add 19.50 qt of water at 164.8 F 154.0 F

 
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Re: English IPA tips
« Reply #13 on: August 26, 2010, 05:55:38 AM »
Burtonise the liquor.

Floor malted Maris Otter pale malt only (low colour if you want to be authentic).
No other malts.

Perhaps a little sugar in the grist - up to 10%.

English hops  - I suggest Kent Goldings - lots of them, but keep it balanced. (OG 1.070, 50 IBUs - or thereabouts)

English ale yeast that ferments dry - Nottingham is pretty reliable

Age for 18 months, and then dry hop.

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Re: English IPA tips
« Reply #14 on: August 26, 2010, 06:15:22 AM »

Age for 18 months, and then dry hop.

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