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Offline rodwha

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Late Addition of Yeast Nutrient?
« on: July 24, 2019, 03:54:31 pm »
I just realized I forgot to add the yeast nutrient 3 weeks ago. Is there something I can do with it? Make another starter and use it there?

The yeast tolerance is something like 9-9.5% and it’s suppose to hit around 12%.

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Re: Late Addition of Yeast Nutrient?
« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2019, 04:11:39 pm »
I just realized I forgot to add the yeast nutrient 3 weeks ago. Is there something I can do with it? Make another starter and use it there?

The yeast tolerance is something like 9-9.5% and it’s suppose to hit around 12%.

Yeast alcohol tolerance is a fuzzy and inexact thing.  I'd let it ride.
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Re: Late Addition of Yeast Nutrient?
« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2019, 05:56:11 pm »
I just realized I forgot to add the yeast nutrient 3 weeks ago. Is there something I can do with it? Make another starter and use it there?

The yeast tolerance is something like 9-9.5% and it’s suppose to hit around 12%.

Yeast alcohol tolerance is a fuzzy and inexact thing.  I'd let it ride.

And three weeks is pretty far along in any event.  You will likely be fine.  Cheers!
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Re: Late Addition of Yeast Nutrient?
« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2019, 05:58:44 pm »
Wouldn’t that much residual sugar be sweet?

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Re: Late Addition of Yeast Nutrient?
« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2019, 06:10:36 pm »
Checked the gravity and found it at 1.042. It is supposed to hit about 1.021.

Would this even bottle carb??? Seems unlikely. Regardless I’m not happy with this. Is there any reason not to make a small starter and add yeast nutrient to that?

*EDIT *

A bit of background. I’ve been keeping US-05 going as I found it to give slightly higher attenuation and flocculation. I make a 1.5 qt starter using 6 oz of DME and save the pint using a quart. For this beer I doubled it since the OG was so high.
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Re: Late Addition of Yeast Nutrient?
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2019, 07:17:20 am »
Checked the gravity and found it at 1.042. It is supposed to hit about 1.021.

Would this even bottle carb??? Seems unlikely. Regardless I’m not happy with this. Is there any reason not to make a small starter and add yeast nutrient to that?

*EDIT *

A bit of background. I’ve been keeping US-05 going as I found it to give slightly higher attenuation and flocculation. I make a 1.5 qt starter using 6 oz of DME and save the pint using a quart. For this beer I doubled it since the OG was so high.
I would actually make a big starter to finish it up. That is your best shot to bring FG down. 3 weeks is way too long fermentation.
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Re: Late Addition of Yeast Nutrient?
« Reply #6 on: July 25, 2019, 08:04:49 am »
Checked the gravity and found it at 1.042. It is supposed to hit about 1.021.

Would this even bottle carb??? Seems unlikely. Regardless I’m not happy with this. Is there any reason not to make a small starter and add yeast nutrient to that?

*EDIT *

A bit of background. I’ve been keeping US-05 going as I found it to give slightly higher attenuation and flocculation. I make a 1.5 qt starter using 6 oz of DME and save the pint using a quart. For this beer I doubled it since the OG was so high.

what was the OG? 
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Re: Late Addition of Yeast Nutrient?
« Reply #7 on: July 25, 2019, 08:15:26 am »
Wouldn’t that much residual sugar be sweet?

Not necessarily
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Re: Late Addition of Yeast Nutrient?
« Reply #8 on: July 25, 2019, 08:16:14 am »
Checked the gravity and found it at 1.042. It is supposed to hit about 1.021.

Would this even bottle carb??? Seems unlikely. Regardless I’m not happy with this. Is there any reason not to make a small starter and add yeast nutrient to that?

*EDIT *

A bit of background. I’ve been keeping US-05 going as I found it to give slightly higher attenuation and flocculation. I make a 1.5 qt starter using 6 oz of DME and save the pint using a quart. For this beer I doubled it since the OG was so high.

Until you do a FFT you have no idea if it will help.
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Re: Late Addition of Yeast Nutrient?
« Reply #9 on: July 25, 2019, 10:44:28 am »
Checked the gravity and found it at 1.042. It is supposed to hit about 1.021.

Would this even bottle carb??? Seems unlikely. Regardless I’m not happy with this. Is there any reason not to make a small starter and add yeast nutrient to that?

*EDIT *

A bit of background. I’ve been keeping US-05 going as I found it to give slightly higher attenuation and flocculation. I make a 1.5 qt starter using 6 oz of DME and save the pint using a quart. For this beer I doubled it since the OG was so high.

what was the OG? 

Just to be sure on this - you are measuring the current gravity with a hydrometer?  A refractometer would not give you an accurate current gravity without adjustment.
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Re: Late Addition of Yeast Nutrient?
« Reply #10 on: July 25, 2019, 12:09:31 pm »
Checked the gravity and found it at 1.042. It is supposed to hit about 1.021.

Would this even bottle carb??? Seems unlikely. Regardless I’m not happy with this. Is there any reason not to make a small starter and add yeast nutrient to that?

*EDIT *

A bit of background. I’ve been keeping US-05 going as I found it to give slightly higher attenuation and flocculation. I make a 1.5 qt starter using 6 oz of DME and save the pint using a quart. For this beer I doubled it since the OG was so high.
I would actually make a big starter to finish it up. That is your best shot to bring FG down. 3 weeks is way too long fermentation.

Why would 3 weeks of fermentation be too long? Seems initially I had read that fermentation is typically done within a week or so, but that allowing it to warm to room temp and sit that the yeast will “clean up” after themselves eating some of what they produced.

I’ve never done shorter than 2 weeks with 3 being typical. I figured I’d let this go for 5-6 weeks being such a high gravity.

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Re: Late Addition of Yeast Nutrient?
« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2019, 12:10:12 pm »
Checked the gravity and found it at 1.042. It is supposed to hit about 1.021.

Would this even bottle carb??? Seems unlikely. Regardless I’m not happy with this. Is there any reason not to make a small starter and add yeast nutrient to that?

*EDIT *

A bit of background. I’ve been keeping US-05 going as I found it to give slightly higher attenuation and flocculation. I make a 1.5 qt starter using 6 oz of DME and save the pint using a quart. For this beer I doubled it since the OG was so high.

what was the OG?

It was targeted to be 1.113 but hit 1.109.

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Re: Late Addition of Yeast Nutrient?
« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2019, 12:11:00 pm »
Checked the gravity and found it at 1.042. It is supposed to hit about 1.021.

Would this even bottle carb??? Seems unlikely. Regardless I’m not happy with this. Is there any reason not to make a small starter and add yeast nutrient to that?

*EDIT *

A bit of background. I’ve been keeping US-05 going as I found it to give slightly higher attenuation and flocculation. I make a 1.5 qt starter using 6 oz of DME and save the pint using a quart. For this beer I doubled it since the OG was so high.

Until you do a FFT you have no idea if it will help.

FFT??? Sorry, I’m clueless as to what this stands for.

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Re: Late Addition of Yeast Nutrient?
« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2019, 12:11:59 pm »
Checked the gravity and found it at 1.042. It is supposed to hit about 1.021.

Would this even bottle carb??? Seems unlikely. Regardless I’m not happy with this. Is there any reason not to make a small starter and add yeast nutrient to that?

*EDIT *

A bit of background. I’ve been keeping US-05 going as I found it to give slightly higher attenuation and flocculation. I make a 1.5 qt starter using 6 oz of DME and save the pint using a quart. For this beer I doubled it since the OG was so high.

what was the OG? 

Just to be sure on this - you are measuring the current gravity with a hydrometer?  A refractometer would not give you an accurate current gravity without adjustment.

I use a hydrometer for everything. I don’t own a refractometer.

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Re: Late Addition of Yeast Nutrient?
« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2019, 12:13:36 pm »
Checked the gravity and found it at 1.042. It is supposed to hit about 1.021.

Would this even bottle carb??? Seems unlikely. Regardless I’m not happy with this. Is there any reason not to make a small starter and add yeast nutrient to that?

*EDIT *

A bit of background. I’ve been keeping US-05 going as I found it to give slightly higher attenuation and flocculation. I make a 1.5 qt starter using 6 oz of DME and save the pint using a quart. For this beer I doubled it since the OG was so high.

Until you do a FFT you have no idea if it will help.

FFT??? Sorry, I’m clueless as to what this stands for.

Forced ferment test.  You take a little, add a massive amount of yeast to ti (even bread yeast) and leave it at room temp.  The purpose is to see if the wort is fermentable.  If the gravity goes down after doing that, then additional yeast in the batch might help.  If it doesn't got down, them you have a wort issue and more yeast won't help.
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