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Offline BrewBama

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Pahto hops
« on: September 10, 2019, 02:07:29 PM »
Has anyone used these yet?  What was/is your impression?


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Re: Pahto hops
« Reply #1 on: September 10, 2019, 02:26:48 PM »
I was out at YC Hop and Brew School. They pitched them as high alpha bittering hops. Didn't say anything about aroma.

Pahato is the local Native American name for My. Adams, so that is where the name came from.
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Re: Pahto hops
« Reply #2 on: September 10, 2019, 02:47:24 PM »
I was out at YC Hop and Brew School. They pitched them as high alpha bittering hops. Didn't say anything about aroma.

Pahato is the local Native American name for My. Adams, so that is where the name came from.

Yeah, that's what I recall.  The OP could get more info from the YC app or website.  But in terms of direct experience, none here.
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Re: Pahto hops
« Reply #3 on: September 10, 2019, 04:09:53 PM »
Yeah that’s pretty much all I could find on the website.


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Re: Pahto hops
« Reply #4 on: September 11, 2019, 06:46:36 PM »
While looking for something else, found this in a Yakima Chief booklet they gave out.

Bitterness with a mild aroma - Herbal, Earthy, Floral.

AA 17-20%
Beta 4.5-6%
Co-H 28-32%
Oil 1-2.5 ml
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Re: Pahto hops
« Reply #5 on: September 11, 2019, 07:25:29 PM »
I notice this is part of a new class of hops in the last few years referred to as "super alpha."  To think that not so long ago "high alpha," strictly bittering hops had less than half the alpha content of these varieties.  Of course, many hops originally bred as high alpha bittering hops found popularity as aroma hops in American IPAs.   But as yet I don't recall ever seeing "super alpha" like Apollo used for anything but efficient bittering in very mild macro lagers.  I suppose that stands as a challenge, a dare, to the home or craft brewer!
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Re: Pahto hops
« Reply #6 on: September 11, 2019, 11:53:10 PM »
I notice this is part of a new class of hops in the last few years referred to as "super alpha."  To think that not so long ago "high alpha," strictly bittering hops had less than half the alpha content of these varieties.  Of course, many hops originally bred as high alpha bittering hops found popularity as aroma hops in American IPAs.   But as yet I don't recall ever seeing "super alpha" like Apollo used for anything but efficient bittering in very mild macro lagers.  I suppose that stands as a challenge, a dare, to the home or craft brewer!

Apollo has dank character, so it has some use for that. It was released by Hopsteiner, so is Pahato a response? It would also yeild a lot of Co2 extract per pound.
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Re: Pahto hops
« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2019, 11:55:43 PM »
I notice this is part of a new class of hops in the last few years referred to as "super alpha."  To think that not so long ago "high alpha," strictly bittering hops had less than half the alpha content of these varieties.  Of course, many hops originally bred as high alpha bittering hops found popularity as aroma hops in American IPAs.   But as yet I don't recall ever seeing "super alpha" like Apollo used for anything but efficient bittering in very mild macro lagers.  I suppose that stands as a challenge, a dare, to the home or craft brewer!

Apollo has dank character, so it has some use for that. It was released by Hopsteiner, so is Pahato a response? It would also yeild a lot of Co2 extract per pound.
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