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Quote from: denny on December 06, 2019, 09:00:09 amQuote from: Robert on December 06, 2019, 08:10:40 amOxygen cleaners should not be mixed with hot water, just room temperature or a little bit warm at most, even cold is ok. At higher temperatures, the reaction is accelerated, and all the oxygen is released at once, so it has no time to have the desired effect. It needs to be slowly released over at least a half hour or so in order to break down organic material.I have almost never used anythign butt the hottest tap water I can get, and both Oxi and Craftmeister were perfectly acceptable. Maybe this is another thing that's more theoretical than a real issue?Possibly, and all the cleaners work in more than one way at once. But in very hot water you probably aren't getting full advantage of the oxygen, while maybe enhancing the effects of the simple carbonates and metasilicate? Just some information new to me I came across doing research on the interwebs on how to make up a cheap, homemade cleaner that checks all the boxes on the patent for PBW. I'd always heard around here that oxygen cleaners need hot water while others don't, it may actually be the other way around! So I've started mixing my PBW, oxy, whatever, in warm but not super hot or cold water. Soak long enough, heck, the water alone will do a lot!
Quote from: Robert on December 06, 2019, 08:10:40 amOxygen cleaners should not be mixed with hot water, just room temperature or a little bit warm at most, even cold is ok. At higher temperatures, the reaction is accelerated, and all the oxygen is released at once, so it has no time to have the desired effect. It needs to be slowly released over at least a half hour or so in order to break down organic material.I have almost never used anythign butt the hottest tap water I can get, and both Oxi and Craftmeister were perfectly acceptable. Maybe this is another thing that's more theoretical than a real issue?
Oxygen cleaners should not be mixed with hot water, just room temperature or a little bit warm at most, even cold is ok. At higher temperatures, the reaction is accelerated, and all the oxygen is released at once, so it has no time to have the desired effect. It needs to be slowly released over at least a half hour or so in order to break down organic material.
Yeah, we've probably discussed it before, but somehow I get PBW to dissolve and rinse easier than Craft Meister. Who knows why, probably in the water, but, bottom line is, do what works for you. Important thing is to get everything clean.
Quote from: Robert on December 06, 2019, 10:09:59 amYeah, we've probably discussed it before, but somehow I get PBW to dissolve and rinse easier than Craft Meister. Who knows why, probably in the water, but, bottom line is, do what works for you. Important thing is to get everything clean.I have a really hard time dissolving PBW. What I have to do is get water from the hot water dispenser (about 170-180) and dissolve the PBW. I then add that to the regular hot water. I got a giant drum of PBW, so I'm stuck with it.
My B Brite says to use warm water. I’ll let Denny pull out his piece of string and define ‘warm’ for me. It dissolves very easily and does a great job. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Quote from: BrewBama on December 10, 2019, 05:18:52 pm My B Brite says to use warm water. I’ll let Denny pull out his piece of string and define ‘warm’ for me. It dissolves very easily and does a great job. Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkSounds like you know what warm is!
Quote from: denny on December 10, 2019, 06:51:15 pmQuote from: BrewBama on December 10, 2019, 05:18:52 pm My B Brite says to use warm water. I’ll let Denny pull out his piece of string and define ‘warm’ for me. It dissolves very easily and does a great job. Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkSounds like you know what warm is!Just above tepid...
Quote from: ynotbrusum on December 11, 2019, 09:25:42 amQuote from: denny on December 10, 2019, 06:51:15 pmQuote from: BrewBama on December 10, 2019, 05:18:52 pm My B Brite says to use warm water. I’ll let Denny pull out his piece of string and define ‘warm’ for me. It dissolves very easily and does a great job. Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkSounds like you know what warm is!Just above tepid...This reminds me of the set of measuring spoons I have marked tad, dash, pinch, smidgen, etc!