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Re: Keg cleaning question
« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2019, 05:01:53 PM »
Oxygen cleaners should not be mixed with hot water, just room temperature or a little bit warm at most, even cold is ok.  At higher temperatures, the reaction is accelerated, and all the oxygen is released at once, so it has no time to have the desired effect.   It needs to be slowly released over at least a half hour or so in order to break down organic material.

I have almost never used anythign butt the hottest tap water I can get, and both Oxi and Craftmeister were perfectly acceptable.  Maybe this is another thing that's more theoretical than a real issue?
Possibly, and all the cleaners work in more than one way at once.  But in very hot water you probably aren't getting full advantage of the oxygen, while maybe enhancing the effects of the simple carbonates and metasilicate?  Just some information new to me I came across doing research on the interwebs on how to make up a cheap, homemade cleaner that checks all the boxes on the patent for PBW. I'd always heard around here that oxygen cleaners need hot water while others don't, it may actually be the other way around!  So I've started mixing my PBW, oxy, whatever, in warm but not super hot or cold water.  Soak long enough, heck, the water alone will do a lot!

But do I need to take fuller advantage of the cleaner if I'm getting everything perfectly clean already?  And FWIW, Oxi and PBW list a 120-130F temp (IIRC) in order to fully dissolve their components.  One of the things that I like about Craftmeister is that their formulation dissolves at lower temps.  Just one of tgose random pieces of info stuck in my head.
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Re: Keg cleaning question
« Reply #16 on: December 06, 2019, 05:09:59 PM »
Yeah, we've probably discussed it before, but somehow I get PBW to dissolve and rinse easier than Craft Meister.  Who knows why, probably in the water, but, bottom line is, do what works for you.  Important thing is to get everything clean.
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Re: Keg cleaning question
« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2019, 07:30:42 PM »
Wash keg out with hot water.  Add clean hot water (3gal) and flush this through beer lines(10psi). Add clean hot water with PBW(3gal) let soak 30min, flip keg over soak 30min then flush through beer lines(10psi).  Spray keg out with clean hot water then fill with 2 gal water and flush beer lines(10psi).  Fill keg with starsan and send through beer lines into another keg.   Ready for next beer.   Only take keg apart if it was sitting for a while +3-4 months


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Re: Keg cleaning question
« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2019, 08:24:36 PM »
Yeah, we've probably discussed it before, but somehow I get PBW to dissolve and rinse easier than Craft Meister.  Who knows why, probably in the water, but, bottom line is, do what works for you.  Important thing is to get everything clean.

I have a really hard time dissolving PBW.  What I have to do is get water from the hot water dispenser (about 170-180) and dissolve the PBW.  I then add that to the regular hot water.  I got a giant drum of PBW, so I'm stuck with it.
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Re: Keg cleaning question
« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2019, 08:39:56 PM »
Yeah, we've probably discussed it before, but somehow I get PBW to dissolve and rinse easier than Craft Meister.  Who knows why, probably in the water, but, bottom line is, do what works for you.  Important thing is to get everything clean.

I have a really hard time dissolving PBW.  What I have to do is get water from the hot water dispenser (about 170-180) and dissolve the PBW.  I then add that to the regular hot water.  I got a giant drum of PBW, so I'm stuck with it.
Well at least you got enough of a bargain to make the little extra effort worth it!   BTW if anyone is interested in exploring bargains, this monster thread over on HBT is where I started researching homemade options.   https://www.homebrewtalk.com/forum/threads/homemade-pbw-recipe.467655/
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Re: Keg cleaning question
« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2019, 12:18:52 AM »
 My B Brite says to use warm water. I’ll let Denny pull out his piece of string and define ‘warm’ for me. It dissolves very easily and does a great job.


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Re: Keg cleaning question
« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2019, 01:51:15 AM »
My B Brite says to use warm water. I’ll let Denny pull out his piece of string and define ‘warm’ for me. It dissolves very easily and does a great job.


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Sounds like you know what warm is!
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Re: Keg cleaning question
« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2019, 04:25:42 PM »
My B Brite says to use warm water. I’ll let Denny pull out his piece of string and define ‘warm’ for me. It dissolves very easily and does a great job.


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Sounds like you know what warm is!

Just above tepid...
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Re: Keg cleaning question
« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2019, 07:09:53 PM »


My B Brite says to use warm water. I’ll let Denny pull out his piece of string and define ‘warm’ for me. It dissolves very easily and does a great job.


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Sounds like you know what warm is!

Just above tepid...

This reminds me of the set of measuring spoons I have marked tad, dash, pinch, smidgen, etc!
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Re: Keg cleaning question
« Reply #24 on: December 11, 2019, 07:12:13 PM »


My B Brite says to use warm water. I’ll let Denny pull out his piece of string and define ‘warm’ for me. It dissolves very easily and does a great job.


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Sounds like you know what warm is!

Just above tepid...

This reminds me of the set of measuring spoons I have marked tad, dash, pinch, smidgen, etc!




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Re: Keg cleaning question
« Reply #25 on: December 11, 2019, 07:16:37 PM »


My B Brite says to use warm water. I’ll let Denny pull out his piece of string and define ‘warm’ for me. It dissolves very easily and does a great job.


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Sounds like you know what warm is!

Just above tepid...

This reminds me of the set of measuring spoons I have marked tad, dash, pinch, smidgen, etc!

Paul McCartney had his mixer EQ relabelled with names like boom, punch, balls, screech, because he could relate to it better than frequency markings.
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