[majorvices]

Hmmm interesting. Probably usually Use them Interchangeably. I haven’t done a home brewed small batch kolsch in a very long time so I will try the single charge next time I brew one. When brewing commercially it doesn’t make a lot of sense to use you expensive hops as buttering/aroma only. I use a charge of Magnum and then an aroma hop at WP. Crystal has been my go to over the years but Hallertauer Mittlefruh, Madarina, Blanc, etc .... I’ve had fun playing with all of those as well


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[charlie]

Hmmm interesting. Probably usually Use them Interchangeably. I haven’t done a home brewed small batch kolsch in a very long time so I will try the single charge next time I brew one. When brewing commercially it doesn’t make a lot of sense to use you expensive hops as buttering/aroma only. I use a charge of Magnum and then an aroma hop at WP. Crystal has been my go to over the years but Hallertauer Mittlefruh, Madarina, Blanc, etc .... I’ve had fun playing with all of those as well


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I had a serious chuckcle reading this message. Buttering! lol

Don't you just loathe "AutoCorrect"? It needs a better name.

Charlie

[charlie]

I use magnum for bittering my kölsch and it has won many awards. Try it and see how you like it.

US or German? I find US to have a little more aroma.

TBN had a podcast where Vinnie Cilurzo (of Russian River fame) was praising Magnum hops, and recommended that they do a SMASH using Magnum. He also touted Crystal hops. So I made two SMASHes with only Magnum and Crystal, and was totally unimpressed. To be perfectly fair I was a newbie then, and the nuance may have escaped me. But I have a pound of Crystal leaf in the freezer. Hmmmmm , .....

Charlie

[Robert]

Don't you just loathe "AutoCorrect"? It needs a better name.

Charlie

I always call it autocorrupt.   My phone finally gave up and accepts that.

[charlie]

I always call it autocorrupt.   My phone finally gave up and accepts that.

Sounds good! I'm gonna go with that.

Charlie

[chumley]

Late to the party, but the greatest all-time bittering hop is without question Clusters.

This really shouldn't be a conversation.

[denny]

Late to the party, but the greatest all-time bittering hop is without question Clusters.

This really shouldn't be a conversation.

I could have written that for you.....

[Robert]

Late to the party, but the greatest all-time bittering hop is without question Clusters.

This really shouldn't be a conversation.

I could have written that for you.....

I love Cluster to death, but maybe not in a Kölsch?!  Then again I love Fuggle so what do I know, eh Denny?   (In fact I love the combination, I do a CAP I call Cluster Fuggle... but that's a different issue I should deal with I guess.  )

[hopfenundmalz]

Late to the party, but the greatest all-time bittering hop is without question Clusters.

This really shouldn't be a conversation.

I could have written that for you.....

I love Cluster to death, but maybe not in a Kölsch?!  Then again I love Fuggle so what do I know, eh Denny?   (In fact I love the combination, I do a CAP I call Cluster Fuggle... but that's a different issue I should deal with I guess.  )

I can see that working in a CAP.

YCH had a beer on tap at HomebrewCon that was called Cluster Fugget. Equal parts of Cluster, Fuggles, and Nugget (they gave packaged ounces away). I liked it! I plan to do a Pale Ale like that, as those 3 are in the freezer.

[denny]

Late to the party, but the greatest all-time bittering hop is without question Clusters.

This really shouldn't be a conversation.

I could have written that for you.....

I love Cluster to death, but maybe not in a Kölsch?!  Then again I love Fuggle so what do I know, eh Denny?   (In fact I love the combination, I do a CAP I call Cluster Fuggle... but that's a different issue I should deal with I guess.  )

I can see that working in a CAP.

YCH had a beer on tap at HomebrewCon that was called Cluster Fugget. Equal parts of Cluster, Fuggles, and Nugget (they gave packaged ounces away). I liked it! I plan to do a Pale Ale like that, as those 3 are in the freezer.

I made a beer dry hopped with the Cluster Fugget and loved it!

[Robert]

Late to the party, but the greatest all-time bittering hop is without question Clusters.

This really shouldn't be a conversation.

I could have written that for you.....

I love Cluster to death, but maybe not in a Kölsch?!  Then again I love Fuggle so what do I know, eh Denny?   (In fact I love the combination, I do a CAP I call Cluster Fuggle... but that's a different issue I should deal with I guess.  )

I can see that working in a CAP.

YCH had a beer on tap at HomebrewCon that was called Cluster Fugget. Equal parts of Cluster, Fuggles, and Nugget (they gave packaged ounces away). I liked it! I plan to do a Pale Ale like that, as those 3 are in the freezer.

I made a beer dry hopped with the Cluster Fugget and loved it!

Wow, Denny liked something with Fuggles in it, and after having a couple intended brewday put off till today, I decided I'd better do a sort of vitality starter with the slurry I'd had waiting to repitch.  You never know what might happen in this world.

[denny]

Late to the party, but the greatest all-time bittering hop is without question Clusters.

This really shouldn't be a conversation.

I could have written that for you.....

I love Cluster to death, but maybe not in a Kölsch?!  Then again I love Fuggle so what do I know, eh Denny?   (In fact I love the combination, I do a CAP I call Cluster Fuggle... but that's a different issue I should deal with I guess.  )

I can see that working in a CAP.

YCH had a beer on tap at HomebrewCon that was called Cluster Fugget. Equal parts of Cluster, Fuggles, and Nugget (they gave packaged ounces away). I liked it! I plan to do a Pale Ale like that, as those 3 are in the freezer.

I made a beer dry hopped with the Cluster Fugget and loved it!

Wow, Denny liked something with Fuggles in it, and after having a couple intended brewday put off till today, I decided I'd better do a sort of vitality starter with the slurry I'd had waiting to repitch.  You never know what might happen in this world.

 . The blend aucessfully covered up what I dislike about Fuggles.

[charlie]

UPDATE: We may not have to worry about it. Hops Direct has been unable to get German Hallertau. They're still trying, but it's not looking good.

I looked at the "Substitutions" pages, and what I see is all garbage.

I brewed the GF her third 10 gal batch of Kolsh yesterday and used the last of my real Hallertau. So next time it's going to be Magnum. Whatcha wanna bet she can't tell the diff? lol

Charlie

[blatz]

The newest crop of German hops usually doesn’t hit the sites until mid/late first quarter of the following year.  You’ll prob be able to get them soon at most of the popular hop shops.


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[Robert]

UPDATE: We may not have to worry about it. Hops Direct has been unable to get German Hallertau. They're still trying, but it's not looking good.

I looked at the "Substitutions" pages, and what I see is all garbage.

I brewed the GF her third 10 gal batch of Kolsh yesterday and used the last of my real Hallertau. So next time it's going to be Magnum. Whatcha wanna bet she can't tell the diff? lol

Charlie

Hallertau Tradition is a decent substitute, Charlie.  That's what it was bred for, and it's closer to the mark than any other replacement I know of.  I see Hops Direct has 2018 pellets.  Cheers!