[Steve Ruch]

Ron has done a fair bit of research on the origins of Nut Brown Ales in general - it's probably got little to do with nuts either as an ingredient or a flavour, just a combination of coloured-up mild meeting a romantic name from an old song.

Heh.  Some Americans still think cream ale should have vanilla in it.   

The crazy ones? 😉

[JohnnyC]

Thanks for the advice. I’ll try roasting some grains next time.

[denny]

"Cane sugar" just tells you what plant it came from, it isn't a single product. If you're thinking of white sugar, here in the UK that's mostly made from beet. But you'll note that Sams refer to "barley malt" which similarly refers to the source of the product but not which individual malt(s) are being used - and I think we can assume that "barley malt" includes both base malt and speciality malts.

But also invert #3 would just fit, as would brewer's caramel for colour - they're both very typical ingredients. Historically nut brown ales seem to have been just dark milds with some colour in it.

But you're speculating.   Based on the info, there is no reason to think cane sugar is anything other than cane sugar.

[BrewBama]

"Cane sugar" just tells you what plant it came from, it isn't a single product. If you're thinking of white sugar, here in the UK that's mostly made from beet. But you'll note that Sams refer to "barley malt" which similarly refers to the source of the product but not which individual malt(s) are being used - and I think we can assume that "barley malt" includes both base malt and speciality malts.

But also invert #3 would just fit, as would brewer's caramel for colour - they're both very typical ingredients. Historically nut brown ales seem to have been just dark milds with some colour in it.

Sounds plausible given the explanation.


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[Visor]

   What, do you mean it's not supposed to taste like cream soda? Whooda thunk it.

[Northern_Brewer]

But you're speculating.   Based on the info, there is no reason to think cane sugar is anything other than cane sugar.

Yes I'm speculating. But it's informed speculation, based on the fact that "cane sugar" is not generally taken to mean "white sugar" in the UK, but is the basis for most specialist brewing sugars here.

Two nations divided by a common language and all that - don't assume the rest of the world speaks American, least of all in England.

[dmtaylor]

Two nations divided by a common language and all that - don't assume the rest of the world speaks American, least of all in England.

Yeah, we spell things incorrectly, rand we don't put R's between vowels.  Bloody hell.   

[Thirsty_Monk]

Ron has done a fair bit of research on the origins of Nut Brown Ales in general - it's probably got little to do with nuts either as an ingredient or a flavour, just a combination of coloured-up mild meeting a romantic name from an old song.

Heh.  Some Americans still think cream ale should have vanilla in it.   

You left lactose out of it. Modern innovative brewer puts lactose everywhere.

[dmtaylor]

Heh.  Some Americans still think cream ale should have vanilla in it.   

You left lactose out of it. Modern innovative brewer puts lactose everywhere.

Oh yeah.  You're right.  Vanilla isn't enough.  If it's a cream ale, you've got to go all the way and add lactose as well. 

[dmtaylor]

Literally just spotted on the Facebook: