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Offline KCBrew

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Northern Brewer Chinook
« on: March 26, 2020, 03:49:41 PM »
Hi,
Getting ready for my second official brew, using NB's "Chinook." I got a chance to taste a batch made by a friend (way more experienced at this than I am), and it was disappointing, to say the least. Checked it out on YouTube, and it seems to be the general consensus. So, here's my question:
What can I add to "up" the flavor profile, and is all homebrew destined to have a small head of foam? Will Kegging change that?
Thanks,
KCBrew

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Re: Northern Brewer Chinook
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2020, 04:12:02 PM »
Without knowing what style of beer you're brewing, what the grain bill consists of and what IBU you're looking for, its too difficult to recommend any changes.

Regarding the head retention, the answer is No.  Beer foam consists of a balance of proteins, hop residue and CO2.  The head retention (foam) will be limited without all three of these compounds.  Generally speaking, low head retention is from a lack of proteins and that can be overcome simply by adding 1/2 lb. of Carafoam malt to the grain bill for a 5 gallon batch.
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Re: Northern Brewer Chinook
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2020, 08:30:30 PM »
Is this the recipe for ‘Chinook’ you are referring to?

MASH INGREDIENTS
-- 10-lbs-Rahr-2-row-Pale-
-- 0.75-lbs.-Belgian-Cara-8-
-- 0.25-lbs.-Briess-Caramel-120-


-- 0.75-oz.-Chinook-(60-min)-
-- 0.5-oz.-Chinook-(10-min)-
-- 0.5-oz.-Chinook-(1-min)-
-- DRY HOPS 1-oz.-Chinook-–-add-to-secondary-fermenter- one-week-before-bottling-day-

If so, I imagine you could just add more boil hops if you’re looking for more bitterness. .25 oz more at each boil addition will pick it up.

If you’re looking for a different hop flavor you’ll have to decide what you’re looking for and replace the Chinook with your 10 and 1 minute hops.  ...or add them in addition to the Chinook hops. Here is an article with some ideas: https://learn.kegerator.com/chinook-hops/


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Re: Northern Brewer Chinook
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2020, 08:48:33 PM »
Is this the recipe for ‘Chinook’ you are referring to?

MASH INGREDIENTS
-- 10-lbs-Rahr-2-row-Pale-
-- 0.75-lbs.-Belgian-Cara-8-
-- 0.25-lbs.-Briess-Caramel-120-


-- 0.75-oz.-Chinook-(60-min)-
-- 0.5-oz.-Chinook-(10-min)-
-- 0.5-oz.-Chinook-(1-min)-
-- DRY HOPS 1-oz.-Chinook-–-add-to-secondary-fermenter- one-week-before-bottling-day-

If so, I imagine you could just add more boil hops if you’re looking for more bitterness. .25 oz more at each boil addition will pick it up.

If you’re looking for a different hop flavor you’ll have to decide what you’re looking for and replace the Chinook with your 10 and 1 minute hops.  ...or add them in addition to the Chinook hops. Here is an article with some ideas: https://learn.kegerator.com/chinook-hops/


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I purchased that kit years ago. It’s awesome. Chinook gives a mix of pine and citrus to aroma and flavor. Bitterness was significant but not too much relative to other IPAs.

I liked it a lot and then scaled it down to hoppy Blonde which I brewed several times.

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Re: Northern Brewer Chinook
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2020, 08:58:12 PM »
Is this the recipe for ‘Chinook’ you are referring to?

MASH INGREDIENTS
-- 10-lbs-Rahr-2-row-Pale-
-- 0.75-lbs.-Belgian-Cara-8-
-- 0.25-lbs.-Briess-Caramel-120-


-- 0.75-oz.-Chinook-(60-min)-
-- 0.5-oz.-Chinook-(10-min)-
-- 0.5-oz.-Chinook-(1-min)-
-- DRY HOPS 1-oz.-Chinook-–-add-to-secondary-fermenter- one-week-before-bottling-day-

If so, I imagine you could just add more boil hops if you’re looking for more bitterness. .25 oz more at each boil addition will pick it up.

If you’re looking for a different hop flavor you’ll have to decide what you’re looking for and replace the Chinook with your 10 and 1 minute hops.  ...or add them in addition to the Chinook hops. Here is an article with some ideas: https://learn.kegerator.com/chinook-hops/


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I purchased that kit years ago. It’s awesome. Chinook gives a mix of pine and citrus to aroma and flavor. Bitterness was significant but not too much relative to other IPAs.

I liked it a lot and then scaled it down to hoppy Blonde which I brewed several times.

PNW Chinook gives you pine and citrus.  MI Chinook gives you pineapple.
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Re: Northern Brewer Chinook
« Reply #5 on: March 27, 2020, 12:48:14 AM »
Is this the recipe for ‘Chinook’ you are referring to?

MASH INGREDIENTS
-- 10-lbs-Rahr-2-row-Pale-
-- 0.75-lbs.-Belgian-Cara-8-
-- 0.25-lbs.-Briess-Caramel-120-


-- 0.75-oz.-Chinook-(60-min)-
-- 0.5-oz.-Chinook-(10-min)-
-- 0.5-oz.-Chinook-(1-min)-
-- DRY HOPS 1-oz.-Chinook-–-add-to-secondary-fermenter- one-week-before-bottling-day-

If so, I imagine you could just add more boil hops if you’re looking for more bitterness. .25 oz more at each boil addition will pick it up.

If you’re looking for a different hop flavor you’ll have to decide what you’re looking for and replace the Chinook with your 10 and 1 minute hops.  ...or add them in addition to the Chinook hops. Here is an article with some ideas: https://learn.kegerator.com/chinook-hops/


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I purchased that kit years ago. It’s awesome. Chinook gives a mix of pine and citrus to aroma and flavor. Bitterness was significant but not too much relative to other IPAs.

I liked it a lot and then scaled it down to hoppy Blonde which I brewed several times.

PNW Chinook gives you pine and citrus.  MI Chinook gives you pineapple.
Interesting. I only buy hops from Hop Heaven now.  I am pretty sure the descriptions on the eBay site tell you the taste of the lot your buying from. Pineapple wouldn’t kill me but that would be quite the surprise if I was expecting pine and citrus.

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Re: Northern Brewer Chinook
« Reply #6 on: March 27, 2020, 01:27:03 AM »
Is this the recipe for ‘Chinook’ you are referring to?

MASH INGREDIENTS
-- 10-lbs-Rahr-2-row-Pale-
-- 0.75-lbs.-Belgian-Cara-8-
-- 0.25-lbs.-Briess-Caramel-120-


-- 0.75-oz.-Chinook-(60-min)-
-- 0.5-oz.-Chinook-(10-min)-
-- 0.5-oz.-Chinook-(1-min)-
-- DRY HOPS 1-oz.-Chinook-–-add-to-secondary-fermenter- one-week-before-bottling-day-

If so, I imagine you could just add more boil hops if you’re looking for more bitterness. .25 oz more at each boil addition will pick it up.

If you’re looking for a different hop flavor you’ll have to decide what you’re looking for and replace the Chinook with your 10 and 1 minute hops.  ...or add them in addition to the Chinook hops. Here is an article with some ideas: https://learn.kegerator.com/chinook-hops/


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I purchased that kit years ago. It’s awesome. Chinook gives a mix of pine and citrus to aroma and flavor. Bitterness was significant but not too much relative to other IPAs.

I liked it a lot and then scaled it down to hoppy Blonde which I brewed several times.

PNW Chinook gives you pine and citrus.  MI Chinook gives you pineapple.

I second that. There can be a little pine in the background, but pineapple is way in the foreground.
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Re: Northern Brewer Chinook
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2020, 05:45:45 AM »
Is this the recipe for ‘Chinook’ you are referring to?

MASH INGREDIENTS
-- 10-lbs-Rahr-2-row-Pale-
-- 0.75-lbs.-Belgian-Cara-8-
-- 0.25-lbs.-Briess-Caramel-120-


-- 0.75-oz.-Chinook-(60-min)-
-- 0.5-oz.-Chinook-(10-min)-
-- 0.5-oz.-Chinook-(1-min)-
-- DRY HOPS 1-oz.-Chinook-–-add-to-secondary-fermenter- one-week-before-bottling-day-

Looking at that recipe, I think I would buy 2 oz of another hop -- say Cascade, and swap and do 1 oz cascade at 10 mins, then one oz chinook and 1 oz cascade at flameout, instead of 1 min.

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Re: Northern Brewer Chinook
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2020, 02:15:24 PM »
Is this the recipe for ‘Chinook’ you are referring to?

MASH INGREDIENTS
-- 10-lbs-Rahr-2-row-Pale-
-- 0.75-lbs.-Belgian-Cara-8-
-- 0.25-lbs.-Briess-Caramel-120-


-- 0.75-oz.-Chinook-(60-min)-
-- 0.5-oz.-Chinook-(10-min)-
-- 0.5-oz.-Chinook-(1-min)-
-- DRY HOPS 1-oz.-Chinook-–-add-to-secondary-fermenter- one-week-before-bottling-day-

If so, I imagine you could just add more boil hops if you’re looking for more bitterness. .25 oz more at each boil addition will pick it up.

If you’re looking for a different hop flavor you’ll have to decide what you’re looking for and replace the Chinook with your 10 and 1 minute hops.  ...or add them in addition to the Chinook hops. Here is an article with some ideas: https://learn.kegerator.com/chinook-hops/


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I purchased that kit years ago. It’s awesome. Chinook gives a mix of pine and citrus to aroma and flavor. Bitterness was significant but not too much relative to other IPAs.

I liked it a lot and then scaled it down to hoppy Blonde which I brewed several times.

PNW Chinook gives you pine and citrus.  MI Chinook gives you pineapple.
Interesting. I only buy hops from Hop Heaven now.  I am pretty sure the descriptions on the eBay site tell you the taste of the lot your buying from. Pineapple wouldn’t kill me but that would be quite the surprise if I was expecting pine and citrus.

Terroir makes almost as much difference as variety.
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Re: Northern Brewer Chinook
« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2020, 03:21:37 PM »
Is this the recipe for ‘Chinook’ you are referring to?

MASH INGREDIENTS
-- 10-lbs-Rahr-2-row-Pale-
-- 0.75-lbs.-Belgian-Cara-8-
-- 0.25-lbs.-Briess-Caramel-120-


-- 0.75-oz.-Chinook-(60-min)-
-- 0.5-oz.-Chinook-(10-min)-
-- 0.5-oz.-Chinook-(1-min)-
-- DRY HOPS 1-oz.-Chinook-–-add-to-secondary-fermenter- one-week-before-bottling-day-

Looking at that recipe, I think I would buy 2 oz of another hop -- say Cascade, and swap and do 1 oz cascade at 10 mins, then one oz chinook and 1 oz cascade at flameout, instead of 1 min.

You could also use Amarillo for the late additions.  It adds some orange flavor.  Just my .02.
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Re: Northern Brewer Chinook
« Reply #10 on: March 29, 2020, 08:19:22 PM »
When I first started brewing it opened up a whole new world. When I’d go to a brew pub and liked a particular beer I’d ask what hops were used And when. Most brewers will answer questions. After a while you start to figure out your personal preferences. So  I brew some beers when hosting a party for friends trying to please the majority. I brew others just for me.

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Re: Northern Brewer Chinook
« Reply #11 on: March 30, 2020, 11:06:30 AM »
Terroir makes almost as much difference as variety.

And yeast - ferment Chinook with say T-58 and it comes out limey rather than the usual grapefruit.

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Re: Northern Brewer Chinook
« Reply #12 on: March 30, 2020, 10:38:49 PM »
Terroir makes almost as much difference as variety.

And yeast - ferment Chinook with say T-58 and it comes out limey rather than the usual grapefruit.

Ah, but which Chinook?   ;)
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