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Re: Extra Vienna...Uses? AIPA?
« Reply #15 on: September 08, 2010, 03:58:53 AM »
What mantra?  Certainly not mine.  You mash to achieve the wort composition you want.  German brewers step mash all the time.

I sometimes use a 131F rest to aid in clarity with continental malts. I'm mashing in the mid-140s to get a fermentable wort, with a short rest at 158F to get a little body.  Mashout for efficiency.

The point is to not have an IPA with a heavy body.  I didn't recommend using sugar so I'm suggesting mashing for fermentability.  Remember the original post; using Vienna in an IPA.  I'm suggesting that the maltiness will make it seem fuller bodied so to mash low to constrain that character.
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Re: Extra Vienna...Uses? AIPA?
« Reply #16 on: September 08, 2010, 07:27:13 AM »
I'm suggesting that the maltiness will make it seem fuller bodied so to mash low to constrain that character.

precisely.  and richardt, if you don't want to do a step mash, i'd recommend 147-8df single infusion for the purpose of maximixing fermentability.  
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Re: Extra Vienna...Uses? AIPA?
« Reply #17 on: September 08, 2010, 12:01:30 PM »
If I was to is no more than 50% vienna along with Marris Otter, would you still recommend a step mash?

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Re: Extra Vienna...Uses? AIPA?
« Reply #18 on: September 08, 2010, 01:16:28 PM »
Yes
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Re: Extra Vienna...Uses? AIPA?
« Reply #19 on: September 09, 2010, 09:57:24 AM »
Gordon, are you saying that you recommend a step mash with Vienna in general?  In what circumstances do you recommend step mashes?
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Re: Extra Vienna...Uses? AIPA?
« Reply #20 on: September 09, 2010, 10:40:20 AM »
Not to inundate you with questions, Gordon, but could you describe the benefits of step mashing beyond issues regarding beer clarity?
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Re: Extra Vienna...Uses? AIPA?
« Reply #21 on: September 09, 2010, 02:36:42 PM »
Just for kicks... It would be interesting to taste the results of a single infusion mash around 148ish vs.  Gordon's proposed step mash.

Any takers?   ;D
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Re: Extra Vienna...Uses? AIPA?
« Reply #22 on: September 10, 2010, 09:00:56 AM »
I've done it in the past, which is how I began questioning the benefits of a step mash.
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Re: Extra Vienna...Uses? AIPA?
« Reply #23 on: September 10, 2010, 02:58:14 PM »
I do not know.
I am a believer of step mashes and decoctions.
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Re: Extra Vienna...Uses? AIPA?
« Reply #24 on: September 10, 2010, 03:15:53 PM »
I do not know.
I am a believer of step mashes and decoctions.


If you believe they work, you should do them.  I've been unable to convince myself.
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Re: Extra Vienna...Uses? AIPA?
« Reply #25 on: September 13, 2010, 01:50:13 PM »
I'll just throw another 'pro' to the Vienna-in-IPA category.  I did a 60/40, 2-Row/Vienna IPA last summer that was awesome - need to do that one again actually.

I do remember the boil looking like egg-drop soup from what I'm guessing were the proteins from the Vienna, so I just might try a step-mash next time.  Even using US-O5, my beer ended up clear after 2-3 weeks in the keg, but couldn't hurt to get more of the proteins out early.