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W-34/70 (Weihenstephaner Brewery)
« on: March 28, 2020, 06:31:55 pm »
Okay...getting ready to keg a Munich Helles in a day or two. Took some gravity readings, and had a nice sample for a taste.

As I write this, a bottle of Weihenstephaner Original Premium was just consumed. The taste profile is nearly identical to my 34/70 Helles. Mine has more flavor, as it is not filtered or pasteurized. Plus it is flat, not carbonated yet.

But I swear the 34/70 must be what they are using at the Weihenstephaner Brewery! The yeast flavor in the two beers is the same.
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Re: W-34/70 (Weihenstephener Brewery)
« Reply #1 on: March 28, 2020, 06:51:20 pm »
So the rumor is that 34/70 is the dry version of Wyeast 2124 and 2124 *is* Weihenstephan's yeast.  So you're correct.  Some people say they think 34/70 and 2124 are different.  Enter Lallemand Diamond which also reminds me very much of 2124 so these could all have the same [or similar] origins.  I have made A LOT of batches of beer with 2124 over the past 20+ years... one of my favorites and a nice yeast for a wide variety of beers.   
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Re: W-34/70 (Weihenstephener Brewery)
« Reply #2 on: March 28, 2020, 07:36:04 pm »
We’re talking about 34/70 again?  :o

Good work making a better beer than a standard example. Pretty amazing.
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Re: W-34/70 (Weihenstephener Brewery)
« Reply #3 on: March 29, 2020, 05:46:20 am »
We’re talking about 34/70 again?  :o

Good work making a better beer than a standard example. Pretty amazing.

This is my first experience with this yeast. And I'm pleased with the results and overall flavor profile.

Our beer (still in the fermenter) compares quite favorably with the commercial example.

This yeast will be harvested and used repeatedly!

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Re: W-34/70 (Weihenstephener Brewery)
« Reply #4 on: March 29, 2020, 07:22:09 am »
We’re talking about 34/70 again?  :o

Good work making a better beer than a standard example. Pretty amazing.

This is my first experience with this yeast. And I'm pleased with the results and overall flavor profile.

Our beer (still in the fermenter) compares quite favorably with the commercial example.

This yeast will be harvested and used repeatedly!

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Re: W-34/70 (Weihenstephener Brewery)
« Reply #5 on: March 29, 2020, 08:30:54 am »
So the rumor is that 34/70 is the dry version of Wyeast 2124 and 2124 *is* Weihenstephan's yeast.  So you're correct.  Some people say they think 34/70 and 2124 are different.  Enter Lallemand Diamond which also reminds me very much of 2124 so these could all have the same [or similar] origins.  I have made A LOT of batches of beer with 2124 over the past 20+ years... one of my favorites and a nice yeast for a wide variety of beers.

I don't know if I'd put it exactly like that, Ken.  Your statement implies that 34/70 is from 2124.  The more likely scenario is that they both came from the same predcessor.
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Re: W-34/70 (Weihenstephener Brewery)
« Reply #6 on: March 29, 2020, 08:33:08 am »
We’re talking about 34/70 again?  :o

Good work making a better beer than a standard example. Pretty amazing.

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Re: W-34/70 (Weihenstephener Brewery)
« Reply #7 on: March 29, 2020, 09:28:18 am »
So the rumor is that 34/70 is the dry version of Wyeast 2124 and 2124 *is* Weihenstephan's yeast.  So you're correct.  Some people say they think 34/70 and 2124 are different.  Enter Lallemand Diamond which also reminds me very much of 2124 so these could all have the same [or similar] origins.  I have made A LOT of batches of beer with 2124 over the past 20+ years... one of my favorites and a nice yeast for a wide variety of beers.

I don't know if I'd put it exactly like that, Ken.  Your statement implies that 34/70 is from 2124.  The more likely scenario is that they both came from the same predcessor.
Well, I tried to straddle that line by saying that some do not equate the two and saying that "these could all have the same [or similar] origins".  I feel like if you enjoyed a beer made with 2124 you may very well like a beer made with 34/70 or Diamond because they are at least similar.   Exact?  No one will tell me and believe me... I have asked!!  :D
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Re: W-34/70 (Weihenstephener Brewery)
« Reply #8 on: March 29, 2020, 09:57:28 am »
So the rumor is that 34/70 is the dry version of Wyeast 2124 and 2124 *is* Weihenstephan's yeast.  So you're correct.  Some people say they think 34/70 and 2124 are different.  Enter Lallemand Diamond which also reminds me very much of 2124 so these could all have the same [or similar] origins.  I have made A LOT of batches of beer with 2124 over the past 20+ years... one of my favorites and a nice yeast for a wide variety of beers.

I don't know if I'd put it exactly like that, Ken.  Your statement implies that 34/70 is from 2124.  The more likely scenario is that they both came from the same predcessor.
Well, I tried to straddle that line by saying that some do not equate the two and saying that "these could all have the same [or similar] origins".  I feel like if you enjoyed a beer made with 2124 you may very well like a beer made with 34/70 or Diamond because they are at least similar.   Exact?  No one will tell me and believe me... I have asked!!  :D

Even if they came from the exact same source originally,  they would diverge over time due to the way they're treated.  But theu would srill have common characteristics.   What I was getting at is that it's unlikely Fermentis cultured 34/70 from 2124 (but certainly not impossible).
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Re: W-34/70 (Weihenstephener Brewery)
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Re: W-34/70 (Weihenstephener Brewery)
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Re: W-34/70 (Weihenstephener Brewery)
« Reply #12 on: March 29, 2020, 03:02:16 pm »
Maybe they ordered from the original source?

https://www.hefebank-weihenstephan.de/en/products/yeast/bierhefen-untergaerig-bruchhefe/w-34-70/

Do they retail to the public, or just wholesale?

No idea. It looks like they sell brewery sized pitches.

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Re: W-34/70 (Weihenstephener Brewery)
« Reply #13 on: March 29, 2020, 04:00:15 pm »
Maybe they ordered from the original source?

https://www.hefebank-weihenstephan.de/en/products/yeast/bierhefen-untergaerig-bruchhefe/w-34-70/

Do they retail to the public, or just wholesale?

No idea. It looks like they sell brewery sized pitches.

You can contact them

They are just north of Munich. Wish I would have paid them a visit last January.

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Re: W-34/70 (Weihenstephaner Brewery)
« Reply #14 on: March 30, 2020, 05:05:11 am »
They're geared to commercial users (and don't take the mickey on pricing like the British NCYC), but I've seen at least one of the German homebrew forums organise a group buy from them.