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Offline JacobT

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SNS or stirred starter for doppelbock?
« on: March 03, 2020, 11:50:09 am »
Hi guys
So I will be making (I hope) a doppelbock this weekend, but I'm a little uncertain whether my normal SNS starter method will be sufficient for a  larger fermentation with an OG at 1080.
The yeast is wlp833.
I'm assuming it's borderline with the SNS starter method?
What are your experiences? Should I just go for the SNS or dig out the equipment for a stirred starter?
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Re: SNS or stirred starter for doppelbock?
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2020, 11:58:33 am »
Based on my experience, it will probably be fine but you're on the edge.  A friend recently experimented with an SNS variation for a 1.085 beer.  He used 2 packs of yeast in a qt. of 1.035 wort.  He reported fermentation starting in 5 hours and grea toverall performance.
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Re: SNS or stirred starter for doppelbock?
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2020, 03:33:14 pm »
Regardless of the aeration method, I'd up the starter size for a big beer, let alone a big lager. For me, that would mean 3 L of 8°P wort on a stirplate, but YMMV.
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Re: SNS or stirred starter for doppelbock?
« Reply #3 on: March 03, 2020, 03:42:37 pm »
Regardless of the aeration method, I'd up the starter size for a big beer, let alone a big lager. For me, that would mean 3 L of 8°P wort on a stirplate, but YMMV.

I'd say the same, but the 2 packs in 1 qt. has  been shown to be effective.  Enough so that I'll be giving it a go.
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Re: SNS or stirred starter for doppelbock?
« Reply #4 on: April 19, 2020, 11:52:29 am »
Just an update.
I did a 2 pack SNS starter.
OG: 1081
FG: 1028
So basically, could probably have done with a "classic" stater or a starter beer.
The beer tastes pretty good, but rather sweet

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Re: SNS or stirred starter for doppelbock?
« Reply #5 on: April 19, 2020, 12:11:44 pm »
Just an update.
I did a 2 pack SNS starter.
OG: 1081
FG: 1028
So basically, could probably have done with a "classic" stater or a starter beer.
The beer tastes pretty good, but rather sweet

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Have you made that recipe before?  Unless you have and have gotten different results, it could be due to either the yeast or the recipe.
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Re: SNS or stirred starter for doppelbock?
« Reply #6 on: April 19, 2020, 12:18:24 pm »
Just an update.
I did a 2 pack SNS starter.
OG: 1081
FG: 1028
So basically, could probably have done with a "classic" stater or a starter beer.
The beer tastes pretty good, but rather sweet

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Have you made that recipe before?  Unless you have and have gotten different results, it could be due to either the yeast or the recipe.
True, no I have not. It is straight from BCS and to date I have not had a recipe from that book be that far off. 65% attenuation also seems low.
But as said it's rather tasty so will probably brew again....with a larger starter....

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Re: SNS or stirred starter for doppelbock?
« Reply #7 on: April 19, 2020, 01:06:34 pm »
Just an update.
I did a 2 pack SNS starter.
OG: 1081
FG: 1028
So basically, could probably have done with a "classic" stater or a starter beer.
The beer tastes pretty good, but rather sweet

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Have you made that recipe before?  Unless you have and have gotten different results, it could be due to either the yeast or the recipe.
True, no I have not. It is straight from BCS and to date I have not had a recipe from that book be that far off. 65% attenuation also seems low.
But as said it's rather tasty so will probably brew again....with a larger starter....

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I have had less than great experiences with a lot of the recipes from that book.  The first time, when I brew them exactly, they often don't turn out like I expect and it takes a few iterations and tweaks to get them to where I want to be.
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Re: SNS or stirred starter for doppelbock?
« Reply #8 on: April 19, 2020, 04:46:13 pm »
Are you checking FG with a hydrometer or refractometer?
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Re: SNS or stirred starter for doppelbock?
« Reply #9 on: April 19, 2020, 05:45:26 pm »
Are you checking FG with a hydrometer or refractometer?
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Re: SNS or stirred starter for doppelbock?
« Reply #10 on: April 19, 2020, 06:02:45 pm »
Did you mash at the BCS recommended 158*F?  Maybe mashing lower could help get the FG down.


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