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Offline ynotbrusum

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Re: Transfers
« Reply #1 on: April 26, 2020, 06:15:45 am »
I have concerns about whether those are food grade and they would be introducing oxygen ingress.  There may be a way to purge with CO2, but seems to be problematic.  They make peristaltic pumps that might be a better solution?
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Re: Transfers
« Reply #2 on: April 26, 2020, 06:54:21 am »
I have concerns about whether those are food grade and they would be introducing oxygen ingress.  There may be a way to purge with CO2, but seems to be problematic.  They make peristaltic pumps that might be a better solution?

Yea, I had the same thoughts.
A small electric pump would work !
I only need to transfer 4 gallons of 80 degree wort to a fermenter.

Seeking specific recommendations, there is a plethora of pumps out there.

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« Last Edit: April 26, 2020, 06:58:35 am by Fire Rooster »

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Re: Transfers
« Reply #3 on: April 26, 2020, 07:11:48 am »
How about a shop vac. Pull it into the fermenter. It’ll suck  the air out instead of pushing it in.


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Re: Transfers
« Reply #4 on: April 26, 2020, 07:24:12 am »
Racking cane and tubing for 22 years.  Never saw a need to make it more compilcated.
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Re: Transfers
« Reply #5 on: April 26, 2020, 08:14:02 am »
After seeing how simple it is to transfer to kegs without air contact, I started doing it and would never go back. It definitely helps reduce cold side oxidation and improves beer longevity and stability.  But that's for kegs.

If you're bottling and bottle conditioning, then the ability and the need to avoid air contact during packaging is lower. I could see that the OP's options are limited and any of the transfer tools should work. I have used that plastic siphon pump. But I have to admit that one of the happiest days of my brewing hobby was when I started kegging. Bottling sucks, but it's appropriate for long-lived beers.

Hopefully, no one is still transfering "to Secondary" anymore. That is one step that almost no brewer needs to do. But if you were, it would help to transfer without air contact. 
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Re: Transfers
« Reply #6 on: April 26, 2020, 08:23:44 am »
How about a shop vac. Pull it into the fermenter. It’ll suck  the air out instead of pushing it in.


https://youtu.be/6oiuSs4yj-A


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That was a great video!! Going to try that on my 30 gallon barrel of wine sitting on the floor when its time to bottle.

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Re: Transfers
« Reply #7 on: April 26, 2020, 09:06:31 am »
Racking cane and tubing for 22 years.  Never saw a need to make it more compilcated.

How do you start your siphon ?

Thanks
« Last Edit: April 26, 2020, 09:36:44 am by Fire Rooster »

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Re: Transfers
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2020, 09:10:55 am »
After using a fermenter with a spigot, my replacements have had spigots. It's so much easier to draw a sample and transfer.
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Re: Transfers
« Reply #9 on: April 26, 2020, 09:38:20 am »
After using a fermenter with a spigot, my replacements have had spigots. It's so much easier to draw a sample and transfer.

My fermenter does, my boil kettle doesn't.

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Re: Transfers
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2020, 09:41:28 am »
After seeing how simple it is to transfer to kegs without air contact, I started doing it and would never go back. It definitely helps reduce cold side oxidation and improves beer longevity and stability.  But that's for kegs.

If you're bottling and bottle conditioning, then the ability and the need to avoid air contact during packaging is lower. I could see that the OP's options are limited and any of the transfer tools should work. I have used that plastic siphon pump. But I have to admit that one of the happiest days of my brewing hobby was when I started kegging. Bottling sucks, but it's appropriate for long-lived beers.

Hopefully, no one is still transfering "to Secondary" anymore. That is one step that almost no brewer needs to do. But if you were, it would help to transfer without air contact.

The main PITA is the boil kettle to fermenter, I'm ok with bottling for now.
I no longer do a secondary.

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Re: Transfers
« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2020, 09:44:08 am »
Racking cane and tubing for 22 years.  Never saw a need to make it more compilcated.

How do you start your siphon ?

Thanks

Fill the racking cane and  tubing with water or sanitizer.  Close the tubing with a thumb or clamp.  Put the racking cane in the beer.  Open the tubing and run the liquid in it into a pitcher, then xfer the tubing to the bucket or keg. 

ETA: just realized this isn't your issue.  Sorry.
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Re: Transfers
« Reply #12 on: April 27, 2020, 02:12:59 am »
Racking cane and tubing for 22 years.  Never saw a need to make it more compilcated.

How do you start your siphon ?

Thanks

Fill the racking cane and  tubing with water or sanitizer.  Close the tubing with a thumb or clamp.  Put the racking cane in the beer.  Open the tubing and run the liquid in it into a pitcher, then xfer the tubing to the bucket or keg. 

ETA: just realized this isn't your issue.  Sorry.

Thanks.  I Don't get a fuzzy feeling about sticking the auto-syphon in
wort.  Inside the auto-syphon there's plenty of room for
critters to hide.  In my whole process it's the weakest link for possible contamination.
« Last Edit: April 27, 2020, 02:34:13 am by Fire Rooster »

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Re: Transfers
« Reply #13 on: April 27, 2020, 12:20:23 pm »
You could switch to a stainless steel auto siphon.

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Re: Transfers
« Reply #14 on: April 27, 2020, 02:40:31 pm »
Sanitation is key with anything going into the finished beer.  I will use an autosiphon on my Big Mouth Bubbler, but after sanitizing it, I hook the tubing to the liquid out disconnect of a CO2 purged and charged corny keg - the CO2 pressure in the keg goes into the tubing, autosiphon racking cane and autosiphon outer tube to "purge" the line (at least somewhat - watch for the pressure to drop fully in the keg to equalization with the autosiphon in the headspace of the fermenter); then I dip it into the beer through the bung hole and pump once to start the siphon, also wrapping food grade plastic wrap around the lid opening and autosiphon interface.

Not absolutely as oxygen free as I might want, but it covers the situation where I am not fully closed loop (with my other fermenters where I can loop the CO2 from the keg back to the fermenter).
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