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https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/seminar/czech-plz-what-i-learned-brewing-with-the-czech-masters/If interested, this seminar given by Annie Johnson, speaks about Czech Pilners and her visits to Pilsner Urquell. In it, she claims their "mash' pH is 4.7-4.9 She also claims this was stated to her by Head Brewmaster Vaclav Berka. She states that that is the pH she targets for her Czech Pilz and claims it is that low pH that drives the familiar flavor of Pilsner Urquell specifically and Czech beers in general.If anything, it is a good seminar to watch.
Quote from: HopDen on April 29, 2020, 08:22:03 amhttps://www.homebrewersassociation.org/seminar/czech-plz-what-i-learned-brewing-with-the-czech-masters/If interested, this seminar given by Annie Johnson, speaks about Czech Pilners and her visits to Pilsner Urquell. In it, she claims their "mash' pH is 4.7-4.9 She also claims this was stated to her by Head Brewmaster Vaclav Berka. She states that that is the pH she targets for her Czech Pilz and claims it is that low pH that drives the familiar flavor of Pilsner Urquell specifically and Czech beers in general.If anything, it is a good seminar to watch.Cool, so if the mash pH is that, whats that in room temp? Danger, loaded question.
Quote from: HopDen on April 29, 2020, 08:22:03 amhttps://www.homebrewersassociation.org/seminar/czech-plz-what-i-learned-brewing-with-the-czech-masters/If interested, this seminar given by Annie Johnson, speaks about Czech Pilners and her visits to Pilsner Urquell. In it, she claims their "mash' pH is 4.7-4.9 She also claims this was stated to her by Head Brewmaster Vaclav Berka. She states that that is the pH she targets for her Czech Pilz and claims it is that low pH that drives the familiar flavor of Pilsner Urquell specifically and Czech beers in general.If anything, it is a good seminar to watch.[/quoteCool, so if the mash pH is that, whats that in room temp? Danger, loaded question.Ok! I won't touch that one!
https://www.homebrewersassociation.org/seminar/czech-plz-what-i-learned-brewing-with-the-czech-masters/If interested, this seminar given by Annie Johnson, speaks about Czech Pilners and her visits to Pilsner Urquell. In it, she claims their "mash' pH is 4.7-4.9 She also claims this was stated to her by Head Brewmaster Vaclav Berka. She states that that is the pH she targets for her Czech Pilz and claims it is that low pH that drives the familiar flavor of Pilsner Urquell specifically and Czech beers in general.If anything, it is a good seminar to watch.[/quoteCool, so if the mash pH is that, whats that in room temp? Danger, loaded question.
Quote from: Die Beerery on April 29, 2020, 10:19:21 amQuote from: HopDen on April 29, 2020, 08:22:03 amhttps://www.homebrewersassociation.org/seminar/czech-plz-what-i-learned-brewing-with-the-czech-masters/If interested, this seminar given by Annie Johnson, speaks about Czech Pilners and her visits to Pilsner Urquell. In it, she claims their "mash' pH is 4.7-4.9 She also claims this was stated to her by Head Brewmaster Vaclav Berka. She states that that is the pH she targets for her Czech Pilz and claims it is that low pH that drives the familiar flavor of Pilsner Urquell specifically and Czech beers in general.If anything, it is a good seminar to watch.Cool, so if the mash pH is that, whats that in room temp? Danger, loaded question.Are you assuming that isn't room temp?
Quote from: denny on April 29, 2020, 10:28:10 amQuote from: Die Beerery on April 29, 2020, 10:19:21 amQuote from: HopDen on April 29, 2020, 08:22:03 amhttps://www.homebrewersassociation.org/seminar/czech-plz-what-i-learned-brewing-with-the-czech-masters/If interested, this seminar given by Annie Johnson, speaks about Czech Pilners and her visits to Pilsner Urquell. In it, she claims their "mash' pH is 4.7-4.9 She also claims this was stated to her by Head Brewmaster Vaclav Berka. She states that that is the pH she targets for her Czech Pilz and claims it is that low pH that drives the familiar flavor of Pilsner Urquell specifically and Czech beers in general.If anything, it is a good seminar to watch.Cool, so if the mash pH is that, whats that in room temp? Danger, loaded question.Are you assuming that isn't room temp?No, I'm not. It's stated that its mash. Please re-read above.
Quote from: Die Beerery on April 29, 2020, 11:34:12 amQuote from: denny on April 29, 2020, 10:28:10 amQuote from: Die Beerery on April 29, 2020, 10:19:21 amQuote from: HopDen on April 29, 2020, 08:22:03 amhttps://www.homebrewersassociation.org/seminar/czech-plz-what-i-learned-brewing-with-the-czech-masters/If interested, this seminar given by Annie Johnson, speaks about Czech Pilners and her visits to Pilsner Urquell. In it, she claims their "mash' pH is 4.7-4.9 She also claims this was stated to her by Head Brewmaster Vaclav Berka. She states that that is the pH she targets for her Czech Pilz and claims it is that low pH that drives the familiar flavor of Pilsner Urquell specifically and Czech beers in general.If anything, it is a good seminar to watch.Cool, so if the mash pH is that, whats that in room temp? Danger, loaded question.Are you assuming that isn't room temp?No, I'm not. It's stated that its mash. Please re-read above.Am I confused, when I check my mash pH, whether at 15,20,30 mins or the end of the mash, I cool my wort then take my reading.
I'm even more confused because her presentation doesn't say mash pH, it says water pH:My well water is generally soft but low pH of around 5.1-5.2 due to dissolved CO2. Has she said elsewhere this is the mash pH?
Quote from: narvin on April 29, 2020, 11:56:26 amI'm even more confused because her presentation doesn't say mash pH, it says water pH:My well water is generally soft but low pH of around 5.1-5.2 due to dissolved CO2. Has she said elsewhere this is the mash pH?Watch it again, she definitely said mash pH. I will too just so I don't have to eat crow.
Quote from: HopDen on April 29, 2020, 12:00:18 pmQuote from: narvin on April 29, 2020, 11:56:26 amI'm even more confused because her presentation doesn't say mash pH, it says water pH:My well water is generally soft but low pH of around 5.1-5.2 due to dissolved CO2. Has she said elsewhere this is the mash pH?Watch it again, she definitely said mash pH. I will too just so I don't have to eat crow.Ok, here are some excerpts. At 14:30-14:42 then 15:45-15:52 and finally at 24:37-24:52 when asked by an audience participant a question about if it was the water pH or mash pH she spoke of earlier and she states mash pH
Quote from: HopDen on April 29, 2020, 12:41:54 pmQuote from: HopDen on April 29, 2020, 12:00:18 pmQuote from: narvin on April 29, 2020, 11:56:26 amI'm even more confused because her presentation doesn't say mash pH, it says water pH:My well water is generally soft but low pH of around 5.1-5.2 due to dissolved CO2. Has she said elsewhere this is the mash pH?Watch it again, she definitely said mash pH. I will too just so I don't have to eat crow.Ok, here are some excerpts. At 14:30-14:42 then 15:45-15:52 and finally at 24:37-24:52 when asked by an audience participant a question about if it was the water pH or mash pH she spoke of earlier and she states mash pHI can’t see any professional, commercial brewery targeting a room temperature mash pH of 4.7-4.9 so she must be talking about mash temp pH. Depending on temperature and mash schedule that could be in the low 5s for room temp pH so it’s low but not crazy.
Quote from: HopDen on April 29, 2020, 11:44:58 amQuote from: Die Beerery on April 29, 2020, 11:34:12 amQuote from: denny on April 29, 2020, 10:28:10 amQuote from: Die Beerery on April 29, 2020, 10:19:21 amQuote from: HopDen on April 29, 2020, 08:22:03 amhttps://www.homebrewersassociation.org/seminar/czech-plz-what-i-learned-brewing-with-the-czech-masters/If interested, this seminar given by Annie Johnson, speaks about Czech Pilners and her visits to Pilsner Urquell. In it, she claims their "mash' pH is 4.7-4.9 She also claims this was stated to her by Head Brewmaster Vaclav Berka. She states that that is the pH she targets for her Czech Pilz and claims it is that low pH that drives the familiar flavor of Pilsner Urquell specifically and Czech beers in general.If anything, it is a good seminar to watch.Cool, so if the mash pH is that, whats that in room temp? Danger, loaded question.Are you assuming that isn't room temp?No, I'm not. It's stated that its mash. Please re-read above.Am I confused, when I check my mash pH, whether at 15,20,30 mins or the end of the mash, I cool my wort then take my reading.Commercial breweries would likely take readings "at temp" because of in process probes being able to handle the temps. So if she is indeed quoting their in process numbers, they would be higher by a certain degree depending on the process. More like 5.00-5.20 at "room temp".
Quote from: Big Monk on April 29, 2020, 11:54:16 amQuote from: HopDen on April 29, 2020, 11:44:58 amQuote from: Die Beerery on April 29, 2020, 11:34:12 amQuote from: denny on April 29, 2020, 10:28:10 amQuote from: Die Beerery on April 29, 2020, 10:19:21 amQuote from: HopDen on April 29, 2020, 08:22:03 amhttps://www.homebrewersassociation.org/seminar/czech-plz-what-i-learned-brewing-with-the-czech-masters/If interested, this seminar given by Annie Johnson, speaks about Czech Pilners and her visits to Pilsner Urquell. In it, she claims their "mash' pH is 4.7-4.9 She also claims this was stated to her by Head Brewmaster Vaclav Berka. She states that that is the pH she targets for her Czech Pilz and claims it is that low pH that drives the familiar flavor of Pilsner Urquell specifically and Czech beers in general.If anything, it is a good seminar to watch.Cool, so if the mash pH is that, whats that in room temp? Danger, loaded question.Are you assuming that isn't room temp?No, I'm not. It's stated that its mash. Please re-read above.Am I confused, when I check my mash pH, whether at 15,20,30 mins or the end of the mash, I cool my wort then take my reading.Commercial breweries would likely take readings "at temp" because of in process probes being able to handle the temps. So if she is indeed quoting their in process numbers, they would be higher by a certain degree depending on the process. More like 5.00-5.20 at "room temp".I can say with certainty that Sierra Nevada, at least, does not take pH at temp. They cool first. And can we just agree that only Annie knows what she meant?