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Belgian IPA
« on: May 03, 2020, 11:04:59 PM »
I’m looking to brew my first Belgian IPA soon.   Having never sampled one or brewed one, I’m none the less intrigued by seeing how the flavors from a Belgian yeast strain commingle with a mix of traditional Belgian hops and perhaps just a touch of a citrusy west coast hop.
For the grain bill I’m thinking
Pilsner Malt (Weyerman is what I have on hand). 80%
Maris Otter. 10%
Aromatic Malt. 3%
Biscuit Malt 3%
Sugar of some sort...4%

Hops, target 40IBU..  bitter and flavor with Hallertau and EKG, dry hop with an America hop that adds orange citrus aroma and flavor.

For the yeast I’m thinking the Ardennes strain, WLP545.   
Any input and suggestions are requested.

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Re: Belgian IPA
« Reply #1 on: May 03, 2020, 11:19:10 PM »
Mandarina Bavaria? Not American but seems to be on-target.

As far as yeast, I haven't used the White Labs strain but if it's supposed to be the Chouffe yeast (i.e. Wyeast 3522) it may be a bit phenolic for what you're trying to do. I'd look more in the direction of Chimay/1214/500.
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Re: Belgian IPA
« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2020, 05:37:30 AM »
Mandarina Bavaria? Not American but seems to be on-target.

As far as yeast, I haven't used the White Labs strain but if it's supposed to be the Chouffe yeast (i.e. Wyeast 3522) it may be a bit phenolic for what you're trying to do. I'd look more in the direction of Chimay/1214/500.
I like the thought of Manarina Bavaria dry hop charge, perhaps a bit of Citra too
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Re: Belgian IPA
« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2020, 01:28:37 PM »
Ardennes is my preferred strain for Belgian IPA.  Try a Houblon Chouffe and you'll see how well it works
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Re: Belgian IPA
« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2020, 01:41:40 PM »
Ardennes is my preferred strain for Belgian IPA.  Try a Houblon Chouffe and you'll see how well it works
Is there a dry equivalent for that?
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Re: Belgian IPA
« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2020, 03:41:53 PM »
Ardennes is my preferred strain for Belgian IPA.  Try a Houblon Chouffe and you'll see how well it works
The Monk's Cellar, a small local brewery, makes a delicious tripel using the Ardennes strain.  I love how the phenolics come thru in it.  My goal is to brewed a 6.5-7% ABV version of that tripel with a slight boost of hops across the board
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Re: Belgian IPA
« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2020, 03:42:57 PM »
Ardennes is my preferred strain for Belgian IPA.  Try a Houblon Chouffe and you'll see how well it works
Is there a dry equivalent for that?

Nope,
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Re: Belgian IPA
« Reply #7 on: May 15, 2020, 09:04:58 PM »
I've been out of the loop for a few years... is While Labs not making WLP570 (Duvel) for homebrewers any more? This was by far my favorite yeast for Belgian IPA back when I was making them.
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Re: Belgian IPA
« Reply #8 on: May 15, 2020, 09:14:36 PM »
I've been out of the loop for a few years... is While Labs not making WLP570 (Duvel) for homebrewers any more? This was by far my favorite yeast for Belgian IPA back when I was making them.

Dunno about that but WY1388 is Duvel also.
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Belgian IPA
« Reply #9 on: May 15, 2020, 10:45:03 PM »
According to suregork, genetically speaking, WB-06 is very close to 570. 1388 is close but a bit further away.


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Re: Belgian IPA
« Reply #10 on: May 16, 2020, 01:32:20 AM »
I've been out of the loop for a few years... is While Labs not making WLP570 (Duvel) for homebrewers any more? This was by far my favorite yeast for Belgian IPA back when I was making them.

I checked the White Labs web site. They list WLP570 (Belgian Golden Ale Yeast) as one of their core strains. I see it in stock at MoreBeer.
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Re: Belgian IPA
« Reply #11 on: May 16, 2020, 02:31:15 PM »
According to suregork, genetically speaking, WB-06 is very close to 570. 1388 is close but a bit further away.


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Results are what matter, I think we'd agree.  If I can make a beer that reminds me of Duvel, I don't care about genetics.
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Re: Belgian IPA
« Reply #12 on: May 16, 2020, 02:55:23 PM »
I've been out of the loop for a few years... is While Labs not making WLP570 (Duvel) for homebrewers any more? This was by far my favorite yeast for Belgian IPA back when I was making them.

I checked the White Labs web site. They list WLP570 (Belgian Golden Ale Yeast) as one of their core strains. I see it in stock at MoreBeer.

Figures that Morebeer was the one site I didn't check at the time. Thanks!

I've been out of the loop for a few years... is While Labs not making WLP570 (Duvel) for homebrewers any more? This was by far my favorite yeast for Belgian IPA back when I was making them.

Dunno about that but WY1388 is Duvel also.

I never realized this. Good to know, thanks!
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Belgian IPA
« Reply #13 on: May 16, 2020, 03:00:22 PM »
According to suregork, genetically speaking, WB-06 is very close to 570. 1388 is close but a bit further away.


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Results are what matter, I think we'd agree.  If I can make a beer that reminds me of Duvel, I don't care about genetics.
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...just noting that the three are close genetically.

Though I’ve never even considered using WB-06 as a replacement for either, theoretically it should work.  ...but I’m not going to try it.




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Re: Belgian IPA
« Reply #14 on: September 03, 2020, 12:52:34 AM »
I think I am going to try it, been reading so many threads on the characteristics of WB-06 and how it is not like a weisse at all.

i'm going to basically try a strong pale ale with WB-06 and see how it goes.