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"House" yeast strains
« on: June 02, 2020, 06:21:49 PM »
I recently read this article from BeerandBrewing.com and it got me thinking.

https://beerandbrewing.com/fewer-yeasts-better-beer/

I tend to brew once a month 5 or 10 gallon batches and I've started to reuse yeast with some success.  I feel like I could save a ton of money by narrowing down the yeasts I use to a few different strains and then making most batches with those strains.  A couple batches a year I would probably use different yeasts where I want to try or make something special/different.  Is anyone doing this already?  What yeast strains do you use? 

I'm thinking I could do most everything with 1056, 1318, and 2206 or another lager yeast.  I usually brew IPAs (NEIPA & West Coast), Pales, Lagers (Czech Pils, Oktoberfest), and Stouts.  I rarely brew hefeweizen or beligan beers.  I've only brewed 1 of each in the last few years.
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Re: "House" yeast strains
« Reply #1 on: June 02, 2020, 06:35:52 PM »
i have 3 house strains that i brew everything with wlp830 for pils,dortmunders, 1056 for stouts,pales,ipa's and 3278 for my yearly sour, i just started trying out kveik hornindal which is good but 830,1056 and 3278 is pretty much all i use now
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Re: "House" yeast strains
« Reply #2 on: June 02, 2020, 06:52:36 PM »
My go-to strain is Bry-97. ...but I don’t repitch that often. I use it as one trip yeast in 90-95% of my beers.

I selected it because it attenuates well, it clears fantastic, it gives me a blank slate taste-wise, gives me a one week turn around, and I can ferment low to mid 60(s) so I’m not working that old fridge I ferment in too hard.

Many have experienced really long lag times with Bry-97. I also used to experience this frustrating lag until I found very predictable results by using the pitch rate calculator on the Lallemand site. When the proper pitch rate recommended by the mfr is used, I routinely see 16 hrs +/- 2 hr lag. Rarely is one 11g pack recommended. My 5 gal batch 1.05x beers usually call for somewhere closer to ~14g. I store the yeast cold and vacuum sealed.

However, you couldn’t go wrong with W34/70 (and it’s liquid equivalents) either. It’s very versatile (it can ferment cold or warm) with some of the same characteristics above.


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Re: "House" yeast strains
« Reply #3 on: June 02, 2020, 07:17:45 PM »
I like Diamond Lager for lagers, Bry-97 and MJ M44 for clean ales, and MJ M36 for ales that benefit from yeast character (primarily my American amber ale and bitters).

Re: Diamond Lager. I bounce between that 34/70 and occasionally MJ M76. No real reason but I am currently gravitating toward the Diamond lager.

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Re: "House" yeast strains
« Reply #4 on: June 02, 2020, 07:39:20 PM »
Nobody will be surprised to learn that WY1450 is one of my staples.  I've recently also started using and banking WY1217 West Coast IPA yeast.  Diamond lager is my usual lager yeast these days.  I tend to keep WY3522, 1762 and 3787 around for Belgian styles.
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Re: "House" yeast strains
« Reply #5 on: June 02, 2020, 08:07:50 PM »
For me, where I live liquid yeast of WY and WL is really expensive, but there some labs doing the reproduction for like 6 dolar, but for now is fermentis US-05, MJ M54 Californian Lager, still have some of this on the frigde, but after this one gonna end the use of this yeast, kveik voss, like the US-05 is a awesome yeast to use in american pale to red style, M36 Liberty Bell Ale and M84 Bohemian Lager, gonna be my good lager yeast. Maybe this gonna change the next 5 months, gonna ditch the M54, and add some others like some liquid strains and add the lallemand yeast, like diamond and windsor, and if I like the M15 empire ale yeast, gonna keep that too.

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Re: "House" yeast strains
« Reply #6 on: June 02, 2020, 08:19:32 PM »
I don't have a LHBS nearby with convenient hours, and my brewdays are often short notice, so I stick to dry yeast whenever possible. S-189 is my preferred lager yeast, and US-05 is for most ales (haven't had a chance to experiment with Lalbrew NEIPA yeast yet, but plan on it soon). If I could only have 2 yeast strains, those would be mine.

That said, I keep a packet or two of several other strains around for experimentation. I use Winsor + Notty for English styles, but still like liquid yeast way better. I also keep Lalvin D47 for cider and 71B for mead. I use BRY97 in ales from time to time as well.
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Re: "House" yeast strains
« Reply #7 on: June 02, 2020, 08:31:28 PM »
I'm getting brave when re-using yeast.  My last couple of beers I used yeast for a third time.  California ale, Conan and British V are the current ones in my rotation.  (not counting my wrangled wild yeast)
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Re: "House" yeast strains
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2020, 08:33:09 PM »
Nobody will be surprised to learn that WY1450 is one of my staples.  I've recently also started using and banking WY1217 West Coast IPA yeast.  Diamond lager is my usual lager yeast these days.  I tend to keep WY3522, 1762 and 3787 around for Belgian styles.

+1 on WY1450.  I have found it to be very clean, appropriate for many styles and more than a bit forgiving if you happen to jazz up your pitch and ferm temps.   :-[  My only issue is that my LHBS only carries WL for liquid so I have to get 1450 on-line and that means I won't brew with it in the warmer months.  Were that there was a Dry equivalent!!  Denny, can't you do something here?   ;)

I have found US-05 to be a great fallback to have on hand when I need to break the glass in case of emergency.  But I don't usually plan recipes with 05 in mind.

I don't reuse yeast at this point, though I might get started with that in the future.

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Re: "House" yeast strains
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2020, 09:01:15 PM »
Nobody will be surprised to learn that WY1450 is one of my staples.  I've recently also started using and banking WY1217 West Coast IPA yeast.  Diamond lager is my usual lager yeast these days.  I tend to keep WY3522, 1762 and 3787 around for Belgian styles.

+1 on WY1450.  I have found it to be very clean, appropriate for many styles and more than a bit forgiving if you happen to jazz up your pitch and ferm temps.   :-[  My only issue is that my LHBS only carries WL for liquid so I have to get 1450 on-line and that means I won't brew with it in the warmer months.  Were that there was a Dry equivalent!!  Denny, can't you do something here?   ;)

I have found US-05 to be a great fallback to have on hand when I need to break the glass in case of emergency.  But I don't usually plan recipes with 05 in mind.

I don't reuse yeast at this point, though I might get started with that in the future.

Sorry, I have no control over the genetics of the yeast!
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Re: "House" yeast strains
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2020, 11:12:55 PM »
White Labs 028 scottish ale yeast in pretty much anything that isnt a lager or a saison. Its clean but complex, accentuates malt and is a low sulfur and diacetyl producer and floccs reasonably well. At lower temps it really slows down towards the tail end of fermentation, which is beneficial to me since I prefer to spund my beers and it gives me a longer window to transfer my beer to the keg. I dont understand how this yeast isnt more popular

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Re: "House" yeast strains
« Reply #11 on: June 03, 2020, 01:44:29 PM »
I brew a lot of American styles and some British styles. My house yeast is WY 1272, ferment at 60F-62f for clean American styles and warmer 66F-68F for the Brits, witch adds lite fruitiness. This yeast clears very nice, better than WY1056 and hits 78% apparent attenuation almost every time unless I make a less fermentable wort on purpose.
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Re: "House" yeast strains
« Reply #12 on: June 03, 2020, 06:35:04 PM »
   US-05 is what I've used the most, everything I used to brew with M-54 I now do with 05. For lagers I mostly use 34/70. I almost always have harvested 05 & 34/70 on hand and sometimes juggle my planned brews in order to use a harvest before it gets too old. I just recently started doing some spit brews between 05 and Bry-97, the jury is still out on those beers. I've been trying different yeasts on my ESB, so far Windsor, London ESB and 34/70 [by accident] but still prefer it with 05, I haven't tried Notty yet but it's on the list. Probably 75-80% of my brews are done with harvested yeast [unless I'm exbeerimenting] so reducing the number of types of yeast I use means fewer jars in the fridge & less wrangling to keep everything fresh enough to remain viable.
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Re: "House" yeast strains
« Reply #13 on: June 06, 2020, 06:05:44 PM »
I've been brewing on average 20 - 5 gallon batches per year for the past few years, I've settled in on maybe two yeast strains for particular styles, but enjoy trying other yeasts that I've not used in the past.  Not interested in harvesting yeast, so no cost savings in it for me.

@erockrph, I've used the Lalbrew NEIPA dry yeast with my standard NEIPA recipe and it rocked, I would not hesitate to use it again.

My 2 cents on house yeasts though is that when a craft brewer uses the same house yeast on ALL of their IPA's, they all taste the same even though the malt bill and hop bill are different.  I get cost savings, but I enjoy tasting creativity more which leads me to drinking more.

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Re: "House" yeast strains
« Reply #14 on: June 07, 2020, 12:42:02 PM »
I've been brewing on average 20 - 5 gallon batches per year for the past few years, I've settled in on maybe two yeast strains for particular styles, but enjoy trying other yeasts that I've not used in the past.  Not interested in harvesting yeast, so no cost savings in it for me.

@erockrph, I've used the Lalbrew NEIPA dry yeast with my standard NEIPA recipe and it rocked, I would not hesitate to use it again.

My 2 cents on house yeasts though is that when a craft brewer uses the same house yeast on ALL of their IPA's, they all taste the same even though the malt bill and hop bill are different. I get cost savings, but I enjoy tasting creativity more which leads me to drinking more.

   From my experience that's true for some craft brewers as well, at least to the extent that all their beers will seem to have a common thread taste-wise.
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