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Re: Roasted Barley and Stout formulations
« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2020, 07:55:01 am »
The only thing I have to add is that while I think there can be some overlap between Porters and Stouts they can also be distinctly different and not the same.

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Roasted Barley and Stout formulations
« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2020, 08:07:36 am »
so, i made a dry stout with 10% simpsons roasted barley, OG 1.045 and EKG to 37 IBU

Slightly bummed out as it feels so weak in the roast department. I'm guessing the yeast might have been a factor? WLP013 vs s05 before.

I saw denny post here or somewhere about adding black patent to get that "ooomph" feel, and i can really see what he means now. i would add 5% either chocolate or black patent for sure in a repeat.
Why wait?  Steep some Black Patent or Choc and use a syringe to add a measured qty of the ‘tea’ to a measured qty of the base beer to get an idea of the impact it will have.


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Re: Roasted Barley and Stout formulations
« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2020, 08:29:20 am »
so, i made a dry stout with 10% simpsons roasted barley, OG 1.045 and EKG to 37 IBU

Slightly bummed out as it feels so weak in the roast department. I'm guessing the yeast might have been a factor? WLP013 vs s05 before.

I saw denny post here or somewhere about adding black patent to get that "ooomph" feel, and i can really see what he means now. i would add 5% either chocolate or black patent for sure in a repeat.
Why wait?  Steep some Black Patent or Choc and use a syringe to add a measured qty of the ‘tea’ to a measured qty of the base beer to get an idea of the impact it will have.


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From my point of view steeping would skew the test since it changes the dark malt character so much.
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Re: Roasted Barley and Stout formulations
« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2020, 12:28:41 pm »
so, i made a dry stout with 10% simpsons roasted barley, OG 1.045 and EKG to 37 IBU

Slightly bummed out as it feels so weak in the roast department. I'm guessing the yeast might have been a factor? WLP013 vs s05 before.

I saw denny post here or somewhere about adding black patent to get that "ooomph" feel, and i can really see what he means now. i would add 5% either chocolate or black patent for sure in a repeat.

Yeah, IMO adding an oz. or 2 of black patent gave it a kick that kept it from being boring
I really plan to brew a dry stout for this coming St. Pats day and have 1 oz of black patent on hand to use in a two gallon batch.
Do you recommend the pale ale malt/flaked barley/roast barley "normal" formulation?
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Re: Roasted Barley and Stout formulations
« Reply #19 on: November 27, 2020, 12:44:25 pm »
so, i made a dry stout with 10% simpsons roasted barley, OG 1.045 and EKG to 37 IBU

Slightly bummed out as it feels so weak in the roast department. I'm guessing the yeast might have been a factor? WLP013 vs s05 before.

I saw denny post here or somewhere about adding black patent to get that "ooomph" feel, and i can really see what he means now. i would add 5% either chocolate or black patent for sure in a repeat.

For a dry stout, that's the way to go.  Of course, you could add cinnamon rolls and chocolate cake to it...;)

Yeah, IMO adding an oz. or 2 of black patent gave it a kick that kept it from being boring
I really plan to brew a dry stout for this coming St. Pats day and have 1 oz of black patent on hand to use in a two gallon batch.
Do you recommend the pale ale malt/flaked barley/roast barley "normal" formulation?
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Re: Roasted Barley and Stout formulations
« Reply #20 on: November 27, 2020, 01:24:13 pm »
so, i made a dry stout with 10% simpsons roasted barley, OG 1.045 and EKG to 37 IBU

Slightly bummed out as it feels so weak in the roast department. I'm guessing the yeast might have been a factor? WLP013 vs s05 before.

I saw denny post here or somewhere about adding black patent to get that "ooomph" feel, and i can really see what he means now. i would add 5% either chocolate or black patent for sure in a repeat.

Yeah, IMO adding an oz. or 2 of black patent gave it a kick that kept it from being boring
I really plan to brew a dry stout for this coming St. Pats day and have 1 oz of black patent on hand to use in a two gallon batch.
Do you recommend the pale ale malt/flaked barley/roast barley "normal" formulation?

i had two last night and they were definitely delicious, i did 5% flaked barley and 3% flaked oats (i didnt buy enough barley) and while not heavy, it tastes great.

for a more assertive taste (if you want that) i'd add 2 to 4 % black patent or go ~15% roasted barley, or really whatever else you want.



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Re: Roasted Barley and Stout formulations
« Reply #21 on: December 21, 2020, 07:26:50 am »
I still use flaked oats sometimes, but never for body or head retention. I use it for flavor contribution only, but I never use it raw, I  always toast it first. I get literally nothing from using raw flaked oats.