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Re: Hefe
« Reply #60 on: November 06, 2020, 07:52:54 pm »
I use 2 L large mouth mason jars - I do not boil in them but you could give them a boiling water bath if you are that stresses. I run mine through the dishwasher and sanitize them with StarSan. I use these fermentation lids below. FYI they work with stirplates too.

A 2L mason jar is too small for an SNS starter.  The container needs to be at least four times the volume of the starter.

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Re: Hefe
« Reply #61 on: November 06, 2020, 07:57:32 pm »
anyone have a source for one gallon pyrex bottles so that I could boil and chill the sns starter in one container?

I use a 5L borosilicate glass (a.k.a. Pyrex or Kimax) media bottle.  While I hot-pack my starter medium, I would never boil in it.  I would never boil in an Erlenmeyer flask either because that is a shatter event waiting to happen.  The proper piece of borosilicate glass labware to use for boiling is a boiling flask.  A boiling flask is round because the expansion and contraction stresses are evenly distributed in sphere.

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Re: Hefe
« Reply #62 on: November 11, 2020, 06:55:33 pm »
Received replacement yeast, temp received 70 F.
Won't be ready to brew Hefeweizen for 2 weeks.
Fermenting 4.5 gallons, 4.5 ABV.

Can I pitch both yeasts the same time ?
expires (05 May 2021) & expires (10 Dec 2020).

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« Last Edit: November 11, 2020, 06:58:13 pm by Fire Rooster »

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Re: Hefe
« Reply #63 on: November 11, 2020, 06:58:09 pm »
Received replacement yeast, temp received 70 F.
Won't be ready to brew Hefeweizen for 2 weeks.
Fermenting 4.5 gallons, 4.5 ABV.

Can I pitch the new one (expires 05 May 2021) ,and the old one (expires 10 Dec 2020).

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Sure.  You probably don't need to, but you can.
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Re: Hefe
« Reply #64 on: November 11, 2020, 07:15:21 pm »
No starter needed pitching both same time  ?
What impact on clove/banana balance using both ? or just the new one ?

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Re: Hefe
« Reply #65 on: November 11, 2020, 07:16:16 pm »
No starter needed pitching both same time  ?
What impact on clove/banana balance using both ? or just the new one ?

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This is a perfect situation for you to decide one wy or the other and find out for yourself.
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Re: Hefe
« Reply #66 on: November 11, 2020, 08:40:32 pm »
Received replacement yeast, temp received 70 F.
Won't be ready to brew Hefeweizen for 2 weeks.
Fermenting 4.5 gallons, 4.5 ABV.

Can I pitch both yeasts the same time ?
expires (05 May 2021) & expires (10 Dec 2020).

Thanks

I'd pitch both, if for no other reason than to use up the old one. It contains relatively few healthy cells as-is. You could go to modest lengths to revive it...or just use it and be done with it. It won't hurt the beer any if you pitch it...or not. The one you just received is a fresh pouch, and direct-pitching it (with or without the old one) will give you a great pitch-rate for your hef.

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Re: Hefe
« Reply #67 on: November 11, 2020, 11:43:40 pm »
I use 2 L large mouth mason jars - I do not boil in them but you could give them a boiling water bath if you are that stresses. I run mine through the dishwasher and sanitize them with StarSan. I use these fermentation lids below. FYI they work with stirplates too.

A 2L mason jar is too small for an SNS starter.  The container needs to be at least four times the volume of the starter.

I've never bothered with SNS starters. What I use works well for me.

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Re: Hefe
« Reply #68 on: November 12, 2020, 09:01:54 am »
Received replacement yeast, temp received 70 F.
Won't be ready to brew Hefeweizen for 2 weeks.
Fermenting 4.5 gallons, 4.5 ABV.

Can I pitch both yeasts the same time ?
expires (05 May 2021) & expires (10 Dec 2020).

Thanks

I'd pitch both, if for no other reason than to use up the old one. It contains relatively few healthy cells as-is. You could go to modest lengths to revive it...or just use it and be done with it. It won't hurt the beer any if you pitch it...or not. The one you just received is a fresh pouch, and direct-pitching it (with or without the old one) will give you a great pitch-rate for your hef.

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Re: Hefe
« Reply #69 on: November 12, 2020, 02:58:30 pm »
Received replacement yeast, temp received 70 F.
Won't be ready to brew Hefeweizen for 2 weeks.
Fermenting 4.5 gallons, 4.5 ABV.

Can I pitch both yeasts the same time ?
expires (05 May 2021) & expires (10 Dec 2020).

Thanks

I'd pitch both, if for no other reason than to use up the old one. It contains relatively few healthy cells as-is. You could go to modest lengths to revive it...or just use it and be done with it. It won't hurt the beer any if you pitch it...or not. The one you just received is a fresh pouch, and direct-pitching it (with or without the old one) will give you a great pitch-rate for your hef.

I agree with this for most beer styles. However, there seems to be agreement out there to avoid overpitching when brewing a Hefeweizen. The following quote is from the article, link below.

I’m not telling you to deliberately under pitch, but don’t take whatever steps you normally do to encourage yeast growth. Don’t grow up a starter. Don’t oxygenate the wort. One smack-pack, no oxygen or aeration.

https://beerandbrewing.com/make-your-best-weissbier/
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Re: Hefe
« Reply #70 on: November 12, 2020, 04:39:26 pm »
Received replacement yeast, temp received 70 F.
Won't be ready to brew Hefeweizen for 2 weeks.
Fermenting 4.5 gallons, 4.5 ABV.

Can I pitch both yeasts the same time ?
expires (05 May 2021) & expires (10 Dec 2020).

Thanks

I'd pitch both, if for no other reason than to use up the old one. It contains relatively few healthy cells as-is. You could go to modest lengths to revive it...or just use it and be done with it. It won't hurt the beer any if you pitch it...or not. The one you just received is a fresh pouch, and direct-pitching it (with or without the old one) will give you a great pitch-rate for your hef.

I agree with this for most beer styles. However, there seems to be agreement out there to avoid overpitching when brewing a Hefeweizen. The following quote is from the article, link below.

I’m not telling you to deliberately under pitch, but don’t take whatever steps you normally do to encourage yeast growth. Don’t grow up a starter. Don’t oxygenate the wort. One smack-pack, no oxygen or aeration.

https://beerandbrewing.com/make-your-best-weissbier/

Only using the fresher Wyeast 3068.
Will use older yeast to test my smacking skills.

Just did test, didn't feel right smacking it, thoughts of pack bursting.
Located pouch inside with fingers, squeezed it, then felt/heard it pop.

Thanks for input
« Last Edit: November 13, 2020, 09:45:46 am by Fire Rooster »

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Re: Hefe
« Reply #71 on: November 13, 2020, 07:12:21 pm »
Would rice hulls be necessary for BIAB ?
Stir every 20 minutes for 90 minutes to equalize heat.

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Re: Hefe
« Reply #72 on: November 13, 2020, 07:25:06 pm »
Would rice hulls be necessary for BIAB ?
Stir every 20 minutes for 90 minutes to equalize heat.

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I doubt it.
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Re: Hefe
« Reply #73 on: November 13, 2020, 09:19:27 pm »
Would rice hulls be necessary for BIAB ?
Stir every 20 minutes for 90 minutes to equalize heat.

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I doubt it.

Thanks, had to double check.
Finalizing my notes for the Hefeweizen.

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Re: Hefe
« Reply #74 on: November 14, 2020, 12:56:00 am »
Would rice hulls be necessary for BIAB ?

I do.  But I sparge my bag too, so I'm kind of goofy.
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