I was saying that I like 2124 and that it has a very distinct character to my tastebuds. My understanding was that 34/70 was a dry version of 2124 and also that Diamond was very close to 34/70. I may be wrong on that. I have never used 34/70 but many people say it's very similar to 2124 and that the description often has that "most popular lager strain in the world!" comment which 2124 also has. Diamond seemed very similar to 2124 to me when I used it. On the 2308/838 thing, I was under the impression they were the same. I have used 2308 many times but never 838. I happen to have a packet of 838 in my fridge and it's up next here so I will find out very soon. Everything I have ever seen comparing the strains says that 2308 and 838 are the same yeast but again... that may not be accurate.