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Offline Cliffs

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Re: copper in boil
« Reply #15 on: November 02, 2020, 09:12:40 am »
But, Jeff, I have been advised that the BTB works a chelation of copper and iron, so is it possible to bind and drop these elements out of wort and beer or to have them skimmed out (pulled out if skimmed) with the hot break?
Yes.

I have a little copper in my system, and use BTB to drop it out of the wort.

when using btb, do you slso have to ensure that no trub makes its way to the fermenter?

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Re: copper in boil
« Reply #16 on: November 02, 2020, 09:31:03 am »
But, Jeff, I have been advised that the BTB works a chelation of copper and iron, so is it possible to bind and drop these elements out of wort and beer or to have them skimmed out (pulled out if skimmed) with the hot break?
Yes.

I have a little copper in my system, and use BTB to drop it out of the wort.

when using btb, do you slso have to ensure that no trub makes its way to the fermenter?

I try and keep as much out as possible, but hard to not get some. The copper should be bound with the BTB. Im not a brewing chemist, so i could be wrong there.
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Re: copper in boil
« Reply #17 on: November 02, 2020, 09:38:43 am »
But, Jeff, I have been advised that the BTB works a chelation of copper and iron, so is it possible to bind and drop these elements out of wort and beer or to have them skimmed out (pulled out if skimmed) with the hot break?
Yes.

I have a little copper in my system, and use BTB to drop it out of the wort.

when using btb, do you slso have to ensure that no trub makes its way to the fermenter?

I try and keep as much out as possible, but hard to not get some. The copper should be bound with the BTB. Im not a brewing chemist, so i could be wrong there.


its a question Ive always had re: the usage of btb, if you dont have a meticulous whirlpool and clear wort going into the fermenter, is it all for nothing?

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Re: copper in boil
« Reply #18 on: November 02, 2020, 09:49:51 am »
But, Jeff, I have been advised that the BTB works a chelation of copper and iron, so is it possible to bind and drop these elements out of wort and beer or to have them skimmed out (pulled out if skimmed) with the hot break?
Yes.

I have a little copper in my system, and use BTB to drop it out of the wort.

when using btb, do you slso have to ensure that no trub makes its way to the fermenter?

I try and keep as much out as possible, but hard to not get some. The copper should be bound with the BTB. Im not a brewing chemist, so i could be wrong there.


its a question Ive always had re: the usage of btb, if you dont have a meticulous whirlpool and clear wort going into the fermenter, is it all for nothing?

Not in my experience
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Re: copper in boil
« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2020, 09:58:57 am »
But, Jeff, I have been advised that the BTB works a chelation of copper and iron, so is it possible to bind and drop these elements out of wort and beer or to have them skimmed out (pulled out if skimmed) with the hot break?
Yes.

I have a little copper in my system, and use BTB to drop it out of the wort.

when using btb, do you slso have to ensure that no trub makes its way to the fermenter?

I try and keep as much out as possible, but hard to not get some. The copper should be bound with the BTB. Im not a brewing chemist, so i could be wrong there.


its a question Ive always had re: the usage of btb, if you dont have a meticulous whirlpool and clear wort going into the fermenter, is it all for nothing?

Not in my experience
Me either. Once the copper is bound to the BTB it is no longer free to participate in the oxidation reactions.
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Re: copper in boil
« Reply #20 on: November 02, 2020, 09:59:48 am »
awesome, good info.