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Offline rungdalek

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Corn Syrup w/ Vanilla
« on: December 02, 2020, 02:04:05 AM »
Has anyone tried using corn syrup with vanilla (as opposed to the plain)?  Did it offer anything positive or negative to the brew?

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Corn Syrup w/ Vanilla
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2020, 02:31:07 AM »
I saw a video by Basic Brewing. They did a Karo syrup beer that they said turned out well.

Edit: they brewed a Mild Ale.
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Re: Corn Syrup w/ Vanilla
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2020, 11:50:12 AM »
I could see that being used in a crime ale, perhaps.  Any idea on the equivalency of the liquid to say, flaked corn?
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Re: Corn Syrup w/ Vanilla
« Reply #3 on: December 02, 2020, 01:24:16 PM »
I could see that being used in a crime ale, perhaps.  Any idea on the equivalency of the liquid to say, flaked corn?
Is crime ale a Freudian slip? I think you subconsciously think it is a crime to brew with corn syrup...
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Re: Corn Syrup w/ Vanilla
« Reply #4 on: December 02, 2020, 02:20:48 PM »
Crime Ale lol!

I think I'll try it - for 2 gallons of Crime Ale:

1 lb. Pilsen Malt
1 lb. Red Wheat Malt
1 lb. Corn Syrup w/ Vanilla

Bitter to ~18 IBU w/ maybe Tettnang or Willamette.

US05 or Nottingham yeast.


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Re: Corn Syrup w/ Vanilla
« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2020, 07:34:58 PM »
Autocorrect strikes again!  Ha ha.
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Re: Corn Syrup w/ Vanilla
« Reply #6 on: December 02, 2020, 08:02:54 PM »
This looks a lot more like a "Cream Soda Ale" than a "Cream Ale", just sayin'
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Re: Corn Syrup w/ Vanilla
« Reply #7 on: December 02, 2020, 08:12:29 PM »
If there was any vanilla character that would remain in the beer I find a dark, low-hopped beer to work nicely with it.  Like a vanilla porter or just a vanilla dark ale.  I used to make a Christmas beer that had a bit of vanilla and cinnamon in it.  The beer itself was just a dark ale, maybe 12-15 SRM with 20 IBUs of a neutral hop and a neutral yeast and then either a vanilla bean or gourmet vanilla extract plus some cinnamon added to a bit of Captain Morgan to make a tincture of sorts.  Add that, keg it, giddy up. 
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Re: Corn Syrup w/ Vanilla
« Reply #8 on: December 02, 2020, 08:33:47 PM »
This looks a lot more like a "Cream Soda Ale" than a "Cream Ale", just sayin'

It's a lighter recipe to see if the vanilla comes through.

Maybe you've seen "On the mountain pop", now that's a real soda based ale!

https://www.mrbeer.com/on-the-mountain-pop-cream-ale

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Re: Corn Syrup w/ Vanilla
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2020, 08:34:36 PM »
If there was any vanilla character that would remain in the beer I find a dark, low-hopped beer to work nicely with it.  Like a vanilla porter or just a vanilla dark ale.  I used to make a Christmas beer that had a bit of vanilla and cinnamon in it.  The beer itself was just a dark ale, maybe 12-15 SRM with 20 IBUs of a neutral hop and a neutral yeast and then either a vanilla bean or gourmet vanilla extract plus some cinnamon added to a bit of Captain Morgan to make a tincture of sorts.  Add that, keg it, giddy up.

Darker beers are normally associated w/ vanilla flavors but again a lighter recipe to see if/how the vanilla comes through.

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Re: Corn Syrup w/ Vanilla
« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2020, 08:52:21 PM »
This looks a lot more like a "Cream Soda Ale" than a "Cream Ale", just sayin'

It's a lighter recipe to see if the vanilla comes through.

Maybe you've seen "On the mountain pop", now that's a real soda based ale!

https://www.mrbeer.com/on-the-mountain-pop-cream-ale

If you use Karo do you think the preservatives will be a problem?
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Re: Corn Syrup w/ Vanilla
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2020, 09:00:18 PM »
This looks a lot more like a "Cream Soda Ale" than a "Cream Ale", just sayin'

It's a lighter recipe to see if the vanilla comes through.

Maybe you've seen "On the mountain pop", now that's a real soda based ale!

https://www.mrbeer.com/on-the-mountain-pop-cream-ale

If you use Karo do you think the preservatives will be a problem?

There are no preservatives in their light syrup, only in the dark syrup.

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Karo light corn syrup is a mixture of corn syrup and is flavored with salt and pure vanilla. It is clear and colorless, with a moderately sweet flavor.

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Karo dark corn syrup is a mixture of corn syrup and a small amount of refiners' syrup (a cane sugar product with a molasses-like flavor). Caramel flavor, sodium benzoate (a preservative), salt, and caramel color are added. Dark corn syrup has a rich brown color and distinctive flavor.

https://www.karofoodservice.com/faq#:~:text=Karo%20dark%20corn%20syrup%20is,brown%20color%20and%20distinctive%20flavor.

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Re: Corn Syrup w/ Vanilla
« Reply #12 on: December 03, 2020, 11:02:38 PM »
Crime Ale lol!

I think I'll try it - for 2 gallons of Crime Ale:

1 lb. Pilsen Malt
1 lb. Red Wheat Malt
1 lb. Corn Syrup w/ Vanilla

Bitter to ~18 IBU w/ maybe Tettnang or Willamette.

US05 or Nottingham yeast.

Ideally brewed on Cell Block #9!

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Re: Corn Syrup w/ Vanilla
« Reply #13 on: December 03, 2020, 11:48:12 PM »
Crime Ale lol!

I think I'll try it - for 2 gallons of Crime Ale:

1 lb. Pilsen Malt
1 lb. Red Wheat Malt
1 lb. Corn Syrup w/ Vanilla

Bitter to ~18 IBU w/ maybe Tettnang or Willamette.

US05 or Nottingham yeast.
Ideally brewed on Cell Block #9!

I really enjoy lighter beers - both making them and drinking them.  If that means using amylase enzymes, rice, flaked corn, corn syrup or rice syrup solids then so be it.

These beers were considered outstanding when they first arrived on the scene.

Europeans actively seek out American Macro Beers - not the heavy drinking German or Belgian beers!

The old stereotype that homebrewers that brew and/or drink such folly should be insulted and shunned is just outdated and plain foolish.

These are difficult beers to get right.

Nobody's opinion will stop me from trying to brew it, that's part of the fun of the hobby.  My other test beer (the all wheat) will be ready to try in a week or two.  Quite frankly I get a kick out of trying new recipes in this hobby.  That process of iteration (formulate/brew/test) is part of the fun.

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Re: Corn Syrup w/ Vanilla
« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2020, 12:33:34 AM »

Nobody's opinion will stop me from trying to brew it, that's part of the fun of the hobby.  My other test beer (the all wheat) will be ready to try in a week or two.  Quite frankly I get a kick out of trying new recipes in this hobby.  That process of iteration (formulate/brew/test) is part of the fun.

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