Author Topic: AB is making a Kölsch?!  (Read 438 times)

Offline alestateyall

  • Senior Brewmaster
  • ******
  • Posts: 1363
  • Tommy M.
    • View Profile
AB is making a Kölsch?!
« on: May 22, 2016, 05:10:56 PM »
I didn't have the guts to buy it.


Offline HoosierBrew

  • Global Moderator
  • I must live here
  • *****
  • Posts: 10571
  • Indianapolis,IN
    • View Profile
Re: AB is making a Kölsch?!
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2016, 05:18:16 PM »
Not sure why the word Bock is on the can. Kind of confusing.
Jon H.

Offline alestateyall

  • Senior Brewmaster
  • ******
  • Posts: 1363
  • Tommy M.
    • View Profile
AB is making a Kölsch?!
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2016, 05:34:44 PM »
ZiegenBock was AB's answer to Shiner Bock in the 90's. Shiner Bock was all college kids drank in TX in my day.

I guess they have kept the brand.

Offline pete b

  • I spend way too much time on the AHA forum
  • ********
  • Posts: 2663
  • Barre, Ma
    • View Profile
Re: AB is making a Kölsch?!
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2016, 05:57:44 PM »
Not sure why the word Bock is on the can. Kind of confusing.
Nothing confusing Jon, just a straight forward authentic Texan Bock Kolsch. You can tell by the word "Ziegen" and the map of Texas.
Don't let the bastards cheer you up.

Offline HoosierBrew

  • Global Moderator
  • I must live here
  • *****
  • Posts: 10571
  • Indianapolis,IN
    • View Profile
Re: AB is making a Kölsch?!
« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2016, 06:12:40 PM »
Not sure why the word Bock is on the can. Kind of confusing.
Nothing confusing Jon, just a straight forward authentic Texan Bock Kolsch. You can tell by the word "Ziegen" and the map of Texas.


Gotcha. Wonder if they'll sell a good Dortmunder porter, too.    :)
Jon H.

Offline blair.streit

  • Brewer
  • ****
  • Posts: 493
    • View Profile
Re: AB is making a Kölsch?!
« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2016, 08:28:29 PM »
AB has tried to minimize any obvious tie in to ZigenBock for as long as I can remember. Shiner is a decent Amber colored light lager with a hint of flavor, but it's not really a Bock either.

I've never found an origin story for ZigenBock. I always just figured the marketing folks at AB just couldn't stand it in the 90's because somebody was beating them at something ;)

I'll have to try this just out of curiosity. Of course if you want a known good Kolsch that's also brewed in Houston try Karbach Love Street.

Offline toby

  • Brewmaster
  • *****
  • Posts: 942
  • Galvez, LA
    • View Profile
    • Beer Judge Chronicles
Re: AB is making a Kölsch?!
« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2016, 07:28:38 AM »
Not sure why the word Bock is on the can. Kind of confusing.

Because they want to tie it to Texas and that's the brand they own there ("For Texans, By Texans" or something like that).  ZiegenBock is the 'brewery'.  I guess technically they could have called it ZiegenKolsch, but that may have created some additional confusion.

Offline reverseapachemaster

  • Brewmaster General
  • *******
  • Posts: 2595
    • View Profile
    • Brain Sparging on Brewing
Re: AB is making a Kölsch?!
« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2016, 07:42:50 AM »
It's been a long time since I've had Ziegenbock but I'll admit to having drank more than a few in my younger days. It's pretty much Shiner Bock.

My guess on the name is that they have Ziegenbock licensed as the brewery so it was easier to keep that name for the kolsch than pay to register another brewery name. I could be wrong.
Heck yeah I blog about homebrewing: Brain Sparging on Brewing but I'm also a lawyer: The Kielich Law Firm

Offline narcout

  • Senior Brewmaster
  • ******
  • Posts: 1296
  • Los Angeles, CA
    • View Profile
Re: AB is making a Kölsch?!
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2016, 08:42:48 AM »
Nothing confusing Jon, just a straight forward authentic Texan Bock Kolsch. You can tell by the word "Ziegen" and the map of Texas.

Man, it's been a while since I've had a good TBK.
Neither a prophet nor a disciple

Offline Stevie

  • Official Poobah of No Life.
  • *
  • Posts: 5169
    • View Profile
Re: AB is making a Kölsch?!
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2016, 08:47:22 AM »
When we first moved to Dallas, Zigenbock was the standard offering at festival type events. That and bud light. Selection certainly changed by the time we left.